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Zoroaster
11-18-2004, 09:29 PM
http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/jews/schizo.htm

Physician Claims Jews are Schizo Carriers
Subtitle: "Is Mental Illness the Jewish Disease?"

It is NOT posted on the Internet. It's from Psychiatric News, published by the American Psychiatric Association. Date of publication: Oct. 25, 1972. Go to your local library.

Evidence that Jews are carriers of schizophrenia is disclosed in a paper prepared for the American Journal of Psychiatry by Dr. Arnold A. Hutschnecker, the New York psychiatrist who once treated President Nixon.
In a study entitled "Mental Illness: The Jewish Disease" Dr. Hutschnecker said that although all Jews are not mentally ill, mental illness is highly contagious and Jews are the principal sources of infection.

Dr. Hutschnecker stated that every Jew is born with the seeds of schizophrenia and it is this fact that accounts for the world-wide persecution of Jews.

"The world would be more compassionate toward the Jews if it was generally realized that Jews are not responsible for their condition." Dr. Hutschnecker said. "Schizophrenia is the fact that creates in Jews a compulsive desire for persecution."

Dr. Hutschnecker pointed out that mental illness peculiar to Jews is manifested by their inability to differentiate between right and wrong. He said that, although Jewish canonical law recognizes the virtues of patience, humility and integrity, Jews are aggressive, vindictive and dishonest.

"While Jews attack non-Jewish Americans for racism, Israel is the most racist country in the world," Dr. Hutschnecker said.

Jews, according to Dr. Hutschnecker, display their mental illness through their paranoia. He explained that the paranoiac not only imagines that he is being persecuted but deliberately creates situations which will make persecution a reality.

Dr. Hutschnecker said that all a person need do to see Jewish paranoia in action is to ride on the New York subway. Nine times out of ten, he said, the one who pushes you out of the way will be a Jew.

"The Jew hopes you will retaliate in kind and when you do he can tell himself you are anti-Semitic."

During World War II, Dr. Hutschnecker said, Jewish leaders in England and the United States knew about the terrible massacre of the Jews by the Nazis. But, he stated, when State Department officials wanted to speak out against the massacre, they were silenced by organized Jewry. Organized Jewry, he said, wanted the massacre to continue in order to arouse the world's sympathy.

Dr. Hutschnecker likened the Jewish need to be persecuted to the kind of insanity where the afflicted person mutilates himself. He said that those who mutilate themselves do so because they want sympathy for themselves. But, he added, such persons reveal their insanity by disfiguring themselves in such a way as to arouse revulsion rather than sympathy.

Dr. Hutschnecker noted that the incidence of mental illness has increased in the United States in direct proportion to the increase in the Jewish population.

"The great Jewish migration to the United States began at the end of the nineteenth century," Dr. Hutschnecker said. "In 1900 there were 1,058,135 Jews in the United States; in 1970 there were 5,868,555; an increase of 454.8%. In 1900 there were 62,112 persons confined in public mental hospitals in the United States; in 1970 there were 339,027, in increase of 445.7%. In the same period the U.S. population rose from 76,212,368 to 203,211,926, an increase of 166.6%. Prior to the influx of Jews from Europe the United States was a mentally healthy nation. But this is no longer true."

Dr. Hutschnecker substantiated his claim that the United States was no longer a mentally healthy nation by quoting Dr. David Rosenthal, chief of the laboratory of psychology at the National Institute of Mental Health, who recently estimated that more than 60,000,000 people in the United States suffer from some form of "schizophrenic spectrum disorder." Noting that Dr. Rosenthal is Jewish, Dr. Hutschnecker said that Jews seem to take a perverse pride in the spread of mental illness.

Dr. Hutschnecker said that the word "schizophrenia" was given to mental disease by dr. Eugen Blueler, a Swiss psychiatrist, in 1911. Prior to that time it had been known as "dementia praecox," the name used by its discoverer, Dr. Emil Kraepelin. Later, according to Dr. Hutschnecker, the same disease was given the name "neurosis" by Dr. Sigmund Freud.

"The symptoms of schizophrenia were recognized almost simultaneously by Bleuler, Kraepelin and Freud at a time when Jews were moving into the affluent middle class," Dr. Hutschnecker said. "Previously they had been ignored as a social and racial entity by the physicians of that era. They became clinically important when they began to intermingle with non-Jews."

Dr. Hutschnecker said that research by Dr. Jacques S. Gottlieb of Wayne State University indicates that schizophrenia is caused by deformity in the alpha-two-globulin protein, which in schizophrenics is corkscrew-shaped. The deformed protein is apparently caused by a virus which, Dr. Hutschnecker believes, Jews transmit to non-Jews with whom they come in contact. He said that because those descended from Western European peoples have not built up an immunity to the virus they are particularly vulnerable to the disease.

"There is no doubt in my mind," Dr. Hutschnecker said, "that Jews have infected the American people with schizophrenia. Jews are carriers of the disease and it will reach epidemic proportions unless science develops a vaccine to counteract it."

A Jew learns as part of his sacred Bible and Talmud studies that crimes against Gentiles, such as genocide, mass murder, child abuse etc. are considered holy services to God. The Bible and the Talmud, the holy books of hate, mandating innocent Jewish youngsters to hate, to murder, to deceit, to expel, to rob non-Jews in the name of God. This leaves not only a dent on their mental structure, but turns their soul into a festering spiritual deformity.
They live and work together with non-Jews in communities throughout the world, liking their Gentile neighbours, enjoying their culture and even at times falling in love with members of the Goyim opposite sex. However, because of the strict law and restrictions (based on racial purity) imposed upon them, they are forced to grow up and develop in a world in which they learn the skills of obeying one command and living a double life. The dilemma the ordinary Jew faces, is that he has to obey the Rabbis interpretation of God's laws. They educated the young minds of the Jewish nation to despise, to subjugate, to look down upon and even to hate the non-Jewish world. Failing to follow these holy commands results, as they are taught, in severe punishment by God. This must result naturally in mental aberration amongst the Jewish community.
Loathsome example-patients of this serious mental illness, that befalls Jews, are America's neo-conservatives who seem to take joy in waging wars in the Middle East.

cerberus
11-20-2004, 06:58 AM
I find some of the termology used very unprofessional for any psychiatrist to express themselves or to be quoted in these terms.
In short as far as a scientific purpose and certainly as a piece of medical lit. goes this is bunkum .
Would love to see this put forward to the BMJ , they would never publish it , full stop .
I will request it via a medical source, on the basis of what is quoted its difficult if not impossible to take it seriously.
This must be a joke.

k0nsl
11-20-2004, 07:32 AM
Very nice article. What other explaination could there possibly be for their peculiar behaviour. I mean it, Whenever someone has some spare time, I suggest closely studying a Jew, they are odd in many number of ways.

It's hard to explain but I have never observed similar behaviour of any other people, ever.

-k0nsl

otto_von_bismarck
11-20-2004, 07:33 AM
In short as far as a scientific purpose and certainly as a piece of medical lit. goes this is bunkum.

Some of the stuff is but for once Zor post an article with a kernel of truth... jews do have a higher incidence of schizophrenia then the general population, I know someone who used to work Newton Wellesley hospital... they had quite a psych ward.

Jim Hardage
11-20-2004, 07:46 AM
Dr. Hutschnecker said that research by Dr. Jacques S. Gottlieb of Wayne State University indicates that schizophrenia is caused by deformity in the alpha-two-globulin protein, which in schizophrenics is corkscrew-shaped. The deformed protein is apparently caused by a virus which, Dr. Hutschnecker believes, Jews transmit to non-Jews with whom they come in contact. He said that because those descended from Western European peoples have not built up an immunity to the virus they are particularly vulnerable to the disease.

I guess Nazis have nothing better to do than make up phony quotes and stories about Jews. Do a google search for the term "alpha-two-globulin protein" - if it were related to schizophrenia you would expect to find it quite often in the scientific literature. It only shows up once - on a Nazi site in connection with this article.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22alpha+two+globulin+protein%22

Similarly search for Hutschnecker and "psychiatric news" you will get six results - the first a notice of Dr. Hutschnecker's death in 2002 and then references to the above article at five Nazi sites.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Hutschnecker+%22Psychiatric+News%22

Finally, common sense dictates that the journal Psychiatric News, a newspaper of the American Psychiatric Association, would probably not publish a document calling significant percentage of its paying membership "aggressive, vindictive and dishonest". No, that description is more befitting the demented Nazi who wrote this for the edification of his fellow Nazis.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/misc/about.shtml

Zoroaster
11-20-2004, 08:11 AM
Schizophrenia Genetic Study

Study linking schizophrenia with a genetic component in DNA. It's not a new idea--scientists have been studying it for a decade at least--but now the focus is on families where schizophrenia occurs more frequently. The families are Ashkenazi Jews, and they are not united in their support for the study.

http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/thought_disorders/site/toc_audio.asp






April 22, 1998


Jewish Concern Grows as Scientists Deepen Studies of Ashkenazi Genes

By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

n a snowy night in January 1996, a handful of Boston scientists convened some of the city's most prominent Jews for a quiet, off-the-record briefing. Over sandwiches and cookies, the rabbis and leaders of Jewish groups learned of the latest research on a breast cancer gene that occurs with startling frequency in American Jews of central and eastern European descent.


Then Dr. Judy Garber, a breast cancer researcher at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, posed a question to the guests: Would their organizations cooperate in future studies of this gene and its implications for these Jews, called Ashkenazis, and their families?


To Dr. Garber's surprise, the answer was a polite but firm "No."

"The feeling was, 'Why us?"' said a guest, Nancy Kaufman, executive director of the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Boston. "There was concern about targeting Jewish women, of making this appear that this is a Jewish issue when it isn't."


Over the past few years, that concern has mushroomed, as scientists have become acutely interested in the genetic idiosyncrasies of Ashkenazi Jews. That is not because these Jews have more defective DNA than any other ethnic group -- they do not. Nor is it because Ashkenazis in general have higher rates of hereditary disease than other groups -- they do not. Rather, centuries of living and marrying within the confines of ghettoes have produced a relatively homogenous population in which tiny genetic alterations, or mutations, that cause disease are easy to find.

While other isolated populations, most notably the Amish, the American Indians, Finns and Icelanders, are being studied with similar intensity, perhaps no group is as conflicted about its role as study subjects as the Jews. The reason is obvious: No other group carries the psychological scars of the Holocaust, a calculated extermination attempt rooted in the notion that Jews were genetically inferior.


"There is a historical context to this that I don't think you can ignore," said Dr. Michael Grodin, a professor of Jewish law and medicine at Boston University, who has written extensively on Nazi Germany. "People are anxious."

"We are getting a bad reputation," said Rabbi Moshe David Tendler, who teaches medical ethics at Yeshiva University in Manhattan. "All the bad genes you talk about are Jewish genes. Why? Because we have a wonderful genetic population to study, and so everybody heads for the Ashkenazi Jew. It's like a gold mine."

Indeed, Ashkenazis, whose ancestors are from Central and Eastern Europe and who make up 90 percent of the six million Jews living in the United States, have contributed greatly to scientific understanding of the way genes influence disease in Jews and non-Jews alike.

Each new study, it seems, begets another. Researchers studying two known breast cancer genes have identified three specific mutations common to Ashkenazis; these mutations are also linked to ovarian and prostate cancer. Last year, scientists searching for a gene for colon cancer accidentally found it in Ashkenazi Jews.

The inquiry is not limited to cancer. At Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, geneticists are now struggling to recruit Ashkenazis in an effort to pinpoint the genes for two inherited mental disorders, schizophrenia and manic depression. At Stanford University, an examination of autism in Ashkenazi families is under way.


Proponents of such studies, including some Jewish geneticists who are conducting them, contend that they can only be a boon for Jews, giving them early access to genetic testing and, eventually, treatment. But others fear that the studies will leave Jews vulnerable to discrimination by employers and insurance companies, and they worry that as more discoveries make the news, the public will be left with the impression of Jews as genetic misfits.

Even the research lexicon makes some Jews cringe; who, after all, wants to hear themselves described as carrying genetic defects or mutant genes? "The use of the word mutation gets to our very soul," said Karen Rothenberg, a law professor at the University of Maryland who is studying the effects of genetic research on Jews. "It's the whole question of stigma and our own view of ourselves."

The subject strikes such a sensitive chord that Hadassah, the Jewish women's organization, is sponsoring a Jewish Leadership Meeting on Genetics on Wednesday in Washington, where top officials of the National Institutes of Health will discuss genetic research with 30 of the nation's most distinguished rabbis and leaders of Jewish groups.

"I don't think there is an overreaction going on here," said Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Human Genome Research Institute and a featured speaker at the meeting. He added that all people -- regardless of ancestry -- are "walking around with somewhere between 5 and 50 rather significant glitches in our DNA."

But few people understand what those glitches mean, said Amy Rutkin, Hadassah's director of American affairs, or how often they occur. For instance, current estimates are that the so-called Jewish mutations in genes known to cause breast cancer appear in 2.3 percent of Ashkenazi women and that 6 percent of Ashkenazis carry the colon cancer gene.

Those percentages are high, but not nearly as high, Ms. Rutkin said, as some Jews mistakenly believe. By comparison, the colon cancer gene has not been found in any non-Jews; fewer than 1 percent of non-Jews carry a mutated breast cancer gene.

Ms. Rutkin says that anxiety is so intense that she worries that just raising the topic of genetics and Jews will "fan the flames of fear." But Hadassah wants to see the genetic studies continue. "We cannot bury our heads in the sand," Ms. Rutkin said.

The ambivalence is so widespread that academics are beginning to study it. Two years ago, Dr. Kathryn Taylor, a medical sociologist at York University in Toronto, asked 20 Jewish families their opinions on the breast cancer research. Half said their families welcomed it, while the other half said they felt victimized by it.

Those conflicting feelings are creating tension among Jews who, on the whole, are "very pro-science," said Grodin, the Boston University ethicist.

As far back as the Middle Ages, some of the greatest Jewish scholars were also doctors, among them Moses Maimonides, the renowned interpreter of Jewish law. The notion that health is paramount is deeply rooted in Judaism; the mandate to fast on Yom Kippur, for instance, is lifted when someone is sick. And Jews consider it a moral obligation to advance scientific knowledge, he said, in keeping with what Ms. Rutkin called the ideal of tikkun olam -- doing justice to repair the world.


In fact, many of the scientists who are conducting the current wave of genetics research are themselves Ashkenazi Jews. Among them is Dr. Bert Vogelstein, a professor of oncology at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, who discovered the colon cancer gene. He comes from a long line of rabbis -- 13 generations of them, a family tradition that ended with Vogelstein's father.

Being Jewish, Vogelstein said, helped him make his discovery. When two patients turned up with the same genetic alterations, he said, "I noticed, just by looking at their names, that they were both likely to be Ashkenazi. In a sense, that's my family."


That notion -- the idea of studying one's family -- is driving some scientists to select Jews as their study subjects. Among them is Ann Pulver, associate professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, who is focusing on Ashkenazis for her study of schizophrenia and manic depression, even though there is no evidence these disorders occur with greater frequency in Jews.


"There are many genetically homogenous populations to study," Dr. Pulver said. "But I myself am an Ashkenazi Jew. I think this is a great advantage to the Jewish community."


For scientists who are not Jewish, however, studying Jews is a delicate endeavor. "It's been stressful," acknowledged Dr. Jeff Struewing, a genetic epidemiologist at the National Cancer Institute. Two years ago, Struewing recruited 5,318 Ashkenazi men and women in the Washington area for the first large-scale effort to assess the prevalence of breast cancer mutations among Ashkenazis.

So Struewing, who said he knew few Jews and little about Judaism, formed a committee that included rabbis to guide his research. "They kept me from putting my foot in my mouth," he said. They also spread the word to their congregants; in nine weeks, Struewing's study was full. His work, published last May, was cited as an example of how to conduct culturally sensitive research. But Ms. Rothenberg, the Maryland law professor, said Jews had become more wary of late. Today, she said, "I'm not sure it would be as easy to get such quick recruitment."

The breast cancer study was not the first time Jews participated in mass testing for a hereditary disorder. Since the early 1970s, pregnant Jewish women have been routinely tested for Tay-Sachs disease, a fatal neurological illness that kills children when they are toddlers. The disease occurs when a child is born to two parents who carry the Tay-Sachs gene. The majority of cases, 85 percent, occur in Ashkenazi Jews.

Professor Rothenberg describes Tay-Sachs testing as "the era of positive genetics" for Jews, most of whom view screening as a mitzvah, or good deed. But she and others note that there is an important difference between screening for Tay-Sachs and diseases like breast cancer: Unlike Tay-Sachs, breast cancer cannot be prevented, leaving some Jews -- and many non-Jews -- debating whether testing does more harm than good.


Among the skeptics is Rabbi Joseph Ekstein, who in 1983 founded a Tay-Sachs testing program in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn. Among the Orthodox, who place a high value on marrying into a healthy family, screening for a disease that has no treatment could create a class of unmarriageable women, he said.

"What is the advantage?" the rabbi asked. "It is just making more tragedy."

On the other end of the spectrum is Dr. Joseph Schulman, founder of the Genetics and IVF Institute in Fairfax, Va., one of the largest genetic testing centers in the nation. His wife recently tested positive for a mutated breast cancer gene, and had her breasts and ovaries removed as a preventive measure. Schulman believes the testing may have saved his wife's life. "This is obviously of great value to Jews," he said.

As the debate continues, some Jewish organizations, including Ms. Kaufman's group in Boston, have begun pressing their state legislators, as well as Congress, to adopt laws prohibiting genetic discrimination in employment and insurance.

Rabbi Tendler, the ethicist at Yeshiva University, said he would discourage Jews from participating in research or genetic testing until protections are passed. "There's so much promise that I always walk gingerly when it means holding back any aspect of research," he said. "Yet, you have to weigh the risk against the benefit."

http://www.ishipress.com/ashkenaz.htm

Jim Hardage
11-20-2004, 08:32 AM
The subject of groups with propensities for mental illness got me thinking of some articles I have read over the years. It seems that the one group that is most associated with mental illness is the Nazis. It seem that every time a Nazi is on trial for some crime, his defense is mental illness - and in most cases there is plenty of evidence to support that claim.

1. Richard Baumhammer was a Nazi who murdered his Jewish neighbor and then roamed Pittsburgh killing blacks and Asians. At his trial he plead not guilty by reason of insanity:

http://www.forward.com/issues/2001/01.05.18/ed.html

"The defense had argued insanity, pointing to Baumhammers's history of mental illness. The jury was more impressed by his history of racist and far-right associations, and decided to hold him responsible for what amounted to an act of racist terrorism."


2. Hardy Lloyd was a Nazi who was a leader of the World Church of the Creator. Hardy murdered a women he met on a blind date. His parents bemoaned the fact that his mental illness lead him to the hate movement.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04221/357934.stm

"He was also a young man with Asperger's Syndrome, a mental condition that approximates a mild autism. Ordinarily, this manifests itself by an inability to understand such things as social distance or a mild fixation on any of a number of things.

. . . "From the time he was small he perseverated on race. No matter what we tried, we couldn't get him to stop." Hardy's parents arranged to have him committed to a mental health unit. He got out after promising to abandon his racist Web site and his pamphleteering."


3. Bufurd Furrow was a Nazi who shot at Jewish children at a summer camp and later killed an Asian postal worker. When arrested, he argued that he was mentally ill and had spent time in psychiatric hospitals.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/furrow/furrow1.html

"Sometimes I feel like I could just lose it and kill people," Buford O'Neal Furrow, 37, a member of the Idaho-based Aryan Nations group, told doctors at Fairfax Psychiatric Hospital in Kirkland during an interview last Oct. 28, when he tried to commit himself."


4. Nathan Thill was a Nazi who murdered a black man on the streets of Denver. At his trial he defense played up his history of mental illness.

http://www.denver-rmn.com/news/1203anal.shtml

"Silverman credited Thill's defense team for making the most of Thill's troubled history of suicide attempts, self-mutilations and psychiatric treatment, in building their case that the 21-year-old was incapable of deliberation -- a key component in proving first-degree murder."


5. Robert Tulloch was a young Nazi who enjoyed reading Holocaust denial literature. He murdered two Dartmouth professors. At his trial his lawyers said they planned to use an insanity defense

http://www.brainerddispatch.com/stories/022301/nne_0223010025.shtml

"Investigators found neo-Nazi literature in the bedroom of suspect Robert Tulloch, 17, "Prime Time Thursday" reported, citing unidentified sources. Holocaust revisionists believe the slaughter of millions of Jews and others by Nazis never happened."

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2002013101010


6. Ben and James Williams were Nazis who murdered a gay couple and burned down three synagogues. Both brother argued that they were mentally ill. Ben proved it by killing himself in his cell while awaiting trial.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/11/08/hate/print.html
http://web.redding.com/specials/matson_mowder/stories/20030511toplo020.shtml

"But Tyler Williams also suggested that his brother may have run out of medication or had his medication cut off, which might have caused "some mental health issues," the report said".


7. In London, David Copeland, a Nazi, set off a nail bomb in a gay bar. His lawyers argued that he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.

http://www.gmax.co.za/look/archivedstories/2000/0630-UKbomb.html

"He told (police) that he was a National Socialist or Nazi, who believed in a white master race," Sweeney said. the Serbs."

. . . Sweeney added that Copeland "thought his bombs would be the spark to set fire to this country and would set off a racial war and get whites to vote for the (neo-Nazi) British National Party."

k0nsl
11-20-2004, 08:38 AM
I guess Nazis have nothing better to do than make up phony quotes and stories about Jews. Do a google search for the term "alpha-two-globulin protein" - if it were related to schizophrenia you would expect to find it quite often in the scientific literature. It only shows up once - on a Nazi site in connection with this article.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22alpha+two+globulin+protein%22

Similarly search for Hutschnecker and "psychiatric news" you will get six results - the first a notice of Dr. Hutschnecker's death in 2002 and then references to the above article at five Nazi sites.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Hutschnecker+%22Psychiatric+News%22

Finally, common sense dictates that the journal Psychiatric News, a newspaper of the American Psychiatric Association, would probably not publish a document calling significant percentage of its paying membership "aggressive, vindictive and dishonest". No, that description is more befitting the demented Nazi who wrote this for the edification of his fellow Nazis.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/misc/about.shtml

I fail to see the Nazi connection with http://globalfire.tv/nj/english.htm

Even if it was a 'Nazi' website you can't deny that 2 + 2 is still 4 even if a Nazi said so.

-k0nsl

Jim Hardage
11-20-2004, 08:39 AM
Schizophrenia Genetic Study

Study linking schizophrenia with a genetic component in DNA. It's not a new idea--scientists have been studying it for a decade at least--but now the focus is on families where schizophrenia occurs more frequently. The families are Ashkenazi Jews, and they are not united in their support for the study.


Of course this article on genetics has nothing to do with the hoax article you posted which alleged that mental diseases could be transmitted by contact and which repeated various Nazi slurs about "organized jewry" and Jewish responsibilty for anti-Semitism.

k0nsl
11-20-2004, 08:44 AM
Of course this article on genetics has nothing to do with the hoax article you posted which alleged that mental diseases could be transmitted by contact and which repeated various Nazi slurs about "organized jewry" and Jewish responsibilty for anti-Semitism.

Jewish behaviour has been known to invoke 'antisemitism', hence the repeated attempts at throwing them out from literally every country in the world.

-k0nsl

Jim Hardage
11-20-2004, 08:49 AM
I fail to see the Nazi connection with http://globalfire.tv/nj/english.htm

"That Adolf Hitler appears to the nations - from all kinds of perspectives - as the greatest hero that the 20th Century has seen."

http://globalfire.tv/nj/04en/jews/mahler.htm

Even if it was a 'Nazi' website you can't deny that 2 + 2 is still 4 even if a Nazi said so.

-k0nsl

No, but I can question why the article appears nowhere but in Nazi publications, why it contains "scientific facts" that appear in no science journal and why logic and common sense dictate that it is a transparant hoax. Anyone who has ever read a scientific journal will find that blanket attacks on all members of ethnic groups like "Dr. Hutschnecker said that Jews seem to take a perverse pride in the spread of mental illness" do not occur. These attacks are the mark of the gutter Nazi.

Jim Hardage
11-20-2004, 08:51 AM
Jewish behaviour has been known to invoke 'antisemitism', hence the repeated attempts at throwing them out from literally every country in the world.

-k0nsl

Nazi behavior been known to invoke 'anti racism', hence the fact that White racialists are pariahs in literally every country in the world.

Zoroaster
11-20-2004, 08:54 AM
Of course this article on genetics has nothing to do with the hoax article you posted which alleged that mental diseases could be transmitted by contact and which repeated various Nazi slurs about "organized jewry" and Jewish responsibilty for anti-Semitism.

Zionist propagandists and disrupters tend to make sweeping claims or judgments on little or no evidence, and they have a tendency to confuse similarity with sameness. That is, they assume that because two (or more) things, events, or persons are alike in some respects, they must be alike in most respects. The sloppy use of analogy is a treacherous form of logic and has a high potential for false conclusions.

Jim Hardage
11-20-2004, 09:16 AM
Zionist propagandists and disrupters tend to make sweeping claims or judgments on little or no evidence, and they have a tendency to confuse similarity with sameness.

Having had your silly hoax revealed, all you can do is insult. Why not get a copy of the article from your local library, scan it and post the relevent pages of the Psychiatric journal. You know what my guess is - you'll come back crying that you can't find it and that the almighty Jews must have stolen all the copies from every library in the world.

:(

Zoroaster
11-20-2004, 10:27 AM
What hoax? Dr. Hutschnecker wrote his article in 1972. My references to ongoing scientific studies, thirty years later, substantiate his claim. I have no need to visit the library.

I have better things to do than mess with trolls. Bug off! go play on the freeway.

Travis
11-20-2004, 11:57 AM
I really don't think Jewish skill at drama, all the outbursts of outrage etc. and other such peculiarities are evidence of mental illness. It gets them ahead in the world, so I would classify them as skills.
Manipulators (of any race) often make phony dramatic displays of emotion because it works. This does not prove they are sick, just that we are gullible if we yield to them.
I think they are just a whole lot better at acting than anyone else, which may be a factor in why almost half the actors in Hollywood are Jews.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/list-of-famous-jews

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-folder.html#anchor436002

I believe the ability to act is genetic. Look at Blacks compared to Mexicans and (other) Asians. Blacks are not smarter than the latter but they can act a whole lot better. Blacks have a keen sense of manipulation and are in a constant state of power struggle amongst themselves, establishing and reestablishing pecking order. They know how do use such tools as facial expressions and pauses of silence, foot dragging and mumbling at opportune times to play the unreceptive game etc.. Very few Asians or Mexicans are good at this.

k0nsl
11-20-2004, 01:00 PM
Nazi behavior been known to invoke 'anti racism', hence the fact that White racialists are pariahs in literally every country in the world.

Are you refering to those miserable clowns in America who are refering to themselves as 'Nazis'? Those are not by any standard or defination a 'Nazi' - Just plain scum.

[edit]
no offense, you Great American 'Nazis'.

-k0nsl

cerberus
11-22-2004, 09:22 AM
As far as a piece of serious psychiatric research goes the article is a joke.
Zor C. I don't know what scientific research you are doing but if this article is the standard of it my advice is take a career break re-evaluate your choice and consider changing it.
You would think that schizophrenia was a "Jewish" Illness got news for you. Its causes might have a genetic factor and I know that can be demonstrated via studies and any decent medical history will soon support this , but it is not something uniquely "Jewish".
Genetic factors may predispose but its not the be all and end all.
You will also find that the term "Schizophrenia" is not often used nowadays as it "labels" patients , just as the term "Jew" "labels" a person.
Your posting of the "article" has perhaps more to do with posting :jew: on people than contributing anything which would be taken seriously by anyne with the slightest knowledge of the illness and its related problems .
Next thing you will be saying the Holocaust never happened :D
Now that would be certainly be considered as an accessory symptom.

I can safely say that your knowledge of psychotic illness can be placed on the back of the average postage stamp.

Zoroaster
11-22-2004, 01:43 PM
I am not a Zionist nor a suckpoop goy from the UK. You can take your political correctness, cerberus, and shove it where the sun don't shine.

cerberus
11-22-2004, 04:58 PM
"Zorc." You may not be a Zionist or a "Goy" (whatever that may be).
What is certain is you are not one who is widely read or familiar with medical journals .
There is no way in this wide world that the "findings" you posted have been or ever would be presented in such a fashion.
Your efforts to pass them off as being "serious" make you look somewhat less than well , serious.
if reinhold ever does get around to makiing the "Eternal Jew Part II - "The Return" I am sure he could use such "serious" material to "educate" the masses.

Jim Hardage
11-22-2004, 05:15 PM
I am not a Zionist nor a suckpoop goy from the UK. You can take your political correctness, cerberus, and shove it where the sun don't shine.

What kind of adult would keep using the expression "suck poop"? Someone with a serious mental illness. Maybe if he's lucky its just Tourette's Syndrone, which can be treated. Or perhaps he's like dozens of others of psychopaths whose untreated mental deficiencies have lead them to the comic book world of costumed Nazis and demonic jews trying fighting to control the world.

1. Richard Baumhammer was a Nazi who murdered his Jewish neighbor and then roamed Pittsburgh killing blacks and Asians. At his trial he plead not guilty by reason of insanity:

http://www.forward.com/issues/2001/01.05.18/ed.html

"The defense had argued insanity, pointing to Baumhammers's history of mental illness."

2. Hardy Lloyd was a Nazi who was a leader of the World Church of the Creator. Hardy murdered a women he met on a blind date. His parents bemoaned the fact that his mental illness lead him to the hate movement.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04221/357934.stm

"He was also a young man with Asperger's Syndrome, a mental condition that approximates a mild autism. Ordinarily, this manifests itself by an inability to understand such things as social distance or a mild fixation on any of a number of things.

. . . "From the time he was small he perseverated on race. No matter what we tried, we couldn't get him to stop." Hardy's parents arranged to have him committed to a mental health unit. He got out after promising to abandon his racist Web site and his pamphleteering."

3. Bufurd Furrow was a Nazi who shot at Jewish children at a summer camp and later killed an Asian postal worker. When arrested, he argued that he was mentally ill and had spent time in psychiatric hospitals.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/furrow/furrow1.html

"Sometimes I feel like I could just lose it and kill people," Buford O'Neal Furrow, 37, a member of the Idaho-based Aryan Nations group, told doctors at Fairfax Psychiatric Hospital in Kirkland during an interview last Oct. 28, when he tried to commit himself."

4. Nathan Thill was a Nazi who murdered a black man on the streets of Denver. At his trial he defense played up his history of mental illness.

http://www.denver-rmn.com/news/1203anal.shtml

"Silverman credited Thill's defense team for making the most of Thill's troubled history of suicide attempts, self-mutilations and psychiatric treatment, in building their case that the 21-year-old was incapable of deliberation -- a key component in proving first-degree murder."

5. Robert Tulloch was a young Nazi who enjoyed reading Holocaust denial literature. He murdered two Dartmouth professors. At his trial his lawyers said they planned to use an insanity defense

http://www.brainerddispatch.com/sto...223010025.shtml

"Investigators found neo-Nazi literature in the bedroom of suspect Robert Tulloch, 17, "Prime Time Thursday" reported, citing unidentified sources. Holocaust revisionists believe the slaughter of millions of Jews and others by Nazis never happened."

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article...d=2002013101010

6. Ben and James Williams were Nazis who murdered a gay couple and burned down three synagogues. Both brother argued that they were mentally ill. Ben proved it by killing himself in his cell while awaiting trial.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1...hate/print.html
http://web.redding.com/specials/mat...1toplo020.shtml

"But Tyler Williams also suggested that his brother may have run out of medication or had his medication cut off, which might have caused "some mental health issues," the report said".

7. In London, David Copeland, a Nazi, set off a nail bomb in a gay bar. His lawyers argued that he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.

http://www.gmax.co.za/look/archived...630-UKbomb.html

"He told (police) that he was a National Socialist or Nazi, who believed in a white master race," Sweeney said."

cerberus
11-22-2004, 05:39 PM
Asperger's Syndrome , produces a very "black and white" view of issues , something worth considering when you look at the man who produced the "article".
Strange how all these folks suddenly aquire "insight" when the law finally catches up with them.

Quote "propagandists and disrupters tend to make sweeping claims or judgments on little or no evidence,"
This would apply to this "article".
Can you give some acredited updates to any medical journals which expand on the 1972 "article".
How was it recieved by the psychiatric community in general ?

Zoroaster
11-22-2004, 05:59 PM
Zionist trolls and their suckpoop goy companions are quick to resort to epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hate monger, nut, crackpot, degenerate, un-American, anti-semite, red, commie, nazi, kook, fink, liar, bigot, and so on) to label and condemn opponents in order to divert attention from their arguments and to discourage others from hearing them out. These epithets don't have to be proved to be effective; the mere fact that they have been said is often enough.

The two preceeding posts are reminiscent of my days at the now defunct NewsMax forum, where Zionists and their ilk would form packs and attack anyone who was critical of Jews, Zionism or Israel. Eventually, because of the strife their disrupter tactics adopted from the Frankfurt School of Political Correctness produced, that forum was shut down.

Jim Hardage
11-22-2004, 06:03 PM
Asperger's Syndrome , produces a very "black and white" view of issues , something worth considering when you look at the man who produced the "article".
Strange how all these folks suddenly aquire "insight" when the law finally catches up with them.

Quote "propagandists and disrupters tend to make sweeping claims or judgments on little or no evidence,"
This would apply to this "article".
Can you give some acredited updates to any medical journals which expand on the 1972 "article".
How was it recieved by the psychiatric community in general ?

Since most White racialists are from the lowest rungs of society, it is very likely that few have ever read an actual scientific journal. That's why it is easy to convince a racialist that the gratuitous insults, blanket condemnations and random bits and pieces of politics and history would actually appear in one:

"While Jews attack non-Jewish Americans for racism, Israel is the most racist country in the world," Dr. Hutschnecker said. . . . Dr. Hutschnecker said that all a person need do to see Jewish paranoia in action is to ride on the New York subway. Nine times out of ten, he said, the one who pushes you out of the way will be a Jew. . . . During World War II, Dr. Hutschnecker said, Jewish leaders in England and the United States knew about the terrible massacre of the Jews by the Nazis. But, he stated, when State Department officials wanted to speak out against the massacre, they were silenced by organized Jewry. Organized Jewry, he said, wanted the massacre to continue in order to arouse the world's sympathy."

Zoroaster
11-22-2004, 06:34 PM
My, my, Dr. Hutschnecker made some politically incorrect statements. What an awful man he must have been--to nerds, anyway.

cerberus
11-23-2004, 01:13 AM
"ZoroA" i thought you were trying to make some point which was baed on science?
I noted that your "article" did not show any actual proof of research or any methadology of any kind.
Why is this ?
You give no informatoion as to age , social , cultural , backgrounds of any group studied , you give no cles as to the length of the study what terms of rederence are involved nothing.
It soon degenerates into a crude and rather vular piece of racist and certainly unethical piece of " research".
Well it might be food for someone's mind , if they had the occasional thought , that is.

der kleine Doktor
11-23-2004, 01:22 AM
I think The Jew's serotonin just has a piston effect and it just jumps up and down so their compulsive complaining works out like that pretty much. The schizophrenic mind as well. They are drunken(mental illness association) in anger at the European man.

cerberus
11-23-2004, 01:26 AM
Alcohol dependence is not classed as a mental illness , are you perhaps talking of something of a duel diagnosis here .
Again this is not something unique to the Jews , that article posted is pure crap , if you want to call a spade a spade.
It matters little about the neurotransmitters of Jews alone , we are all vunerable to the right shot .

der kleine Doktor
11-23-2004, 01:32 AM
Alcohol dependence is not classed as a mental illness , are you perhaps talking of something of a duel diagnosis here .
Again this is not something unique to the Jews , that article posted is pure crap , if you want to call a spade a spade.
It matters little about the neurotransmitters of Jews alone , we are all vunerable to the right shot .

I was not talking about alcohol really. Schizo mind associated with mental illness. The article actually made sense. I do not know why you see it as utter crap, because the Jew has been prone to actually complain to Europeans for centuries.

cerberus
11-23-2004, 02:06 AM
If you took it to any psychiatrist they would greet it with redicule.
I know several through work , I can't for a minute believe that they would give it any consideration.
If you have ever read any medical or health care related research the contrast would be complete as it would be obvious.
Lots of people complain , I hear complaints every day , very few come from Jews and even fewer from Schizophrenics.

Zoroaster
11-23-2004, 03:58 AM
In the fifth post to this thread I provided links to studies concerning Dr. Hutschnecker's claim that Jews are schizo carries. These studies, almost thirty years after he wrote the letter cerberus calls "crap," confirm his claim. BTW, many Jewish researchers are involved in the studies.

Zionist propagandists and forum disrupters tend to be very fuzzy about what constitutes proof, and they also tend to get caught up in logical fallacies, such as post hoc ergo propter hoc (assuming that a prior event explains a subsequent occurrence simply because of their before and after relationship). They tend to project wished-for conclusions and to exaggerate the significance of information that confirms their beliefs while derogating or ignoring information, the post I've quoted above, for example, that contradicts them. They tend to be motivated by feelings more than facts, by what they want to exist rather than what actually does exist.

Lies are the religion of Zionism.

cerberus
11-24-2004, 01:01 PM
Facts such as the grossly unprofesional and judgemental terms as per your " article".
If you can defend what you see as truth from that , you obviously have no idea how a well researched and presented peice of medical research looks like.

The term " Schizo Genes" , where in God's name would you find such a term ?
The terms "Schizo." or "Schizophrenic ".
"Schizo" is used only as an insult , which shows a degree of ignorane on the part of the user.
"Schizpohrenic" is a little used term , an elderly medical term in fact
Very rarely will you see it entered in any medical record today.
You suggest that the Jewsish race is unstable and overly prone to psychotic illness .
What figures from modern research can you use to enhance the claim?
Can you make any reference to those born in Israel or other counteries , how do your figures compare to other nationalities?
What is the basis of your sample , how balanced is it , does it include newly diagnosed or estiblished cases ?
What research was done into the background of new cases ?
What time period was it taken over , when was this last reviewed?
Socio -economic group , something worth considering, no mention of it.
30 years ago is a long time in terms of reserach , anything over five years old is considered dated.

There are a lot of general and vague conclusions drawn from the "article" , many of which would never be presented in a medical study.