I don't see anything wrong with it.

Dresden was not an open city. It was defended and had industry dedicated to producing war goods.

The Hague Convention prohibits the bombing of undefended cities.

Personally, I think it is disgusting.

Personally, I think it is disgusting.

Can you back up why?

How was it really different to any other strategic bombing raid of the war?

It destroyed a lot of extremely lovely architecture. I dislike that.

It destroyed a lot of extremely lovely architecture. I dislike that.

In the over all scheme of things though was it worse than any other bombing? Why is this single bombing seen as a war crime but doing the same to other cities by both sides was fine?

I don't believe in "war crimes". I just dislike the bombing of Dresden in particular because a lot of very nice architecture was lost.

It's also a good case (one of many) to toss at the Allies as a response to their constant, hypocritical moral preening.

Can you back up why?
Why? I find it disgusting that savages would level such a beautiful city. If New York City was destroyed, then it would not really be a loss.

How was it really different to any other strategic bombing raid of the war?
The cultural sites that were destroyed.

In the over all scheme of things though was it worse than any other bombing?
All cities are not equal. Some are more valuable than others. It would likewise have been a tragedy if Paris, Rome, or Florence were destroyed in such a way.

Why is this single bombing seen as a war crime but doing the same to other cities by both sides was fine?
Who said it was a war crime? I simply said it was a tragedy that such a beautiful city was obliterated. If Rome had been destroyed by the Germans, then I would feel the same way.

Who said it was a war crime? I simply said it was a tragedy that such a beautiful city was obliterated. If Rome had been destroyed by the Germans, then I would feel the same way.

I didn't say YOU personally did but many history books will talk about Coventry, etc etc etc like they were nothing and then talk about Dresden and the words war crime pops up.

If New York City was destroyed, then it would not really be a loss.

It would be a plus. Ditto for LA, Washington DC, Detroit...

As a matter of fact, I hope our little Islamic Hax0rz are taking notes here.

I didn't say YOU personally did but many history books will talk about Coventry, etc etc etc like they were nothing and then talk about Dresden and the words war crime pops up.
How many people were killed in Coventry? How many in Dresden?

How many people were killed in Conventry? How many in Dresden?

Does numbers equal a war crime?

Does numbers equal a war crime?
When did war become a crime, Yellow?

When did war become a crime, Yellow?

Acts in a war became a crime when nations signed the Hague and Geneva Conventions and no doubt many other treaties.

The real holocaust of WWII.

Acts in a war became a crime when nations signed the Hague and Geneva Conventions and no doubt many other treaties.
Where in these international treaties is warfare regarded as a criminal act punishable by ad hoc international tribunals? You seem to be equivocating violating a treaty with committing a crime here.

Where in these international treaties is warfare regarded as a criminal act punishable by ad hoc international tribunals? You seem to be equivocating violating a treaty with committing a crime here.

I'm not, the world does. What's the point of signing a treaty if you aren't going to obey it? If you lose a war and break treaties, etc during that war then boo hoo for you.

I'm not, the world does.
According to which treaties?

What's the point of signing a treaty if you aren't going to obey it?
What treaties are these? Which treaties established violations of such treaties as criminal acts which could be prosecuted by America, Britain, France, and Russia under international law?

If you lose a war and break treaties, etc during that war then boo hoo for you.
Treaties and dictates are two different things. Have you ever heard of ex post facto law? What's that, Yellow?

Have you ever heard of ex post facto law? What's that, Yellow?

Yeah, they pass them sometimes in Australia to keep law abiding people on their toes. :p

If parts of New York were destroyed, no loss.

But damn do they have some good theatre, food, etc. And the Met is a great art gallery.

Now, back on topic: Dresden was a tragedy, much as any other bombing of civilian areas was a tragedy. Such is the way of total war, where the factory worker is every bit as much a factor in defeat or victory as a combatant.

The loss of life was deplorable that cannot be denied.
The men who flew had little choice , did it shorten the war , probably not.

EYTYXEITE!
It was another amoral sign of Allies' 'strategy' guiding always to Tragedy.
In a case such this (as well as Hamburg etc.) the target was not the war-Industry but the German public-moral.
Humanity has to remember these real Holocausts !

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