For the past couple of months I finally started a serious wourkout system. I developed an occasional sharp pain in my elbow and forearm (tennis elbow) and didn't workout at all last week. It still hasn't gone away. Any suggestions?

I'm waiting for the endless "Switch hands while jacking-off" posts. I already have to use both hands, so don't even start :222

It could be a number of things.

When you say "serious workout program" do you mean pushing serious weight or doing some gayass shit?

For the past couple of months I finally started a serious wourkout system. I developed an occasional sharp pain in my elbow and forearm (tennis elbow) and didn't workout at all last week. It still hasn't gone away. Any suggestions?

I'm waiting for the endless "Switch hands while jacking-off" posts. I already have to use both hands, so don't even start :222You started working out at the same time I did lol...

Sounds like you pulled a muscle. I don't know what to tell you...

Not sure if this is even analogous, but I similarly wrenched my elbow/forearm in a bike wreck and it never totally goes away. Usually they're 90-95% after ten days or so, and perfectly functional - but on really humid days they ache like a bitch.

you must eat fat fish and raw wegetables and fruit..

see thread in health and fitness..

It could be a number of things.

When you say "serious workout program" do you mean pushing serious weight or doing some gayass shit?

No gay-ass shit...bench, dumbbells, curl bar shit

For the past couple of months I finally started a serious wourkout system. I developed an occasional sharp pain in my elbow and forearm (tennis elbow) and didn't workout at all last week. It still hasn't gone away. Any suggestions?

I'm waiting for the endless "Switch hands while jacking-off" posts. I already have to use both hands, so don't even start :222

Naproxen sodium, ice and rest of the affected area.

Naproxen sodium, ice and rest of the affected area.

Naprozen sodium? Where does one get this? And it's been rested for a week now. SHould I just go ahead and start again?

No gay-ass shit...bench, dumbbells, curl bar shit
Ive been doing both the manly weightlifting stuff( btw you are only supposed to work each muscle group about every 5 days, but do it intensely over 100 reps) and the gay ass aerobics shit.

Naprozen sodium? Where does one get this? And it's been rested for a week now. SHould I just go ahead and start again?

It's an OTC pain reliever. I forget the brand name but the generic form is naproxen sodium.

Try lifting with lighter weight and a different exercise or exercise form that works the same muscle group. If it still hurts, stop. Acute, localized pain is an indication of injured tissue that has to heal.

Ive been doing both the manly weightlifting stuff( btw you are only supposed to work each muscle group about every 5 days, but do it intensely over 100 reps) and the gay ass aerobics shit.

I've been doing a schedule like this:
1. Biceps
2. Abs
3. Chest
4. Back
5. Triceps
6. Legs

And then I'm running or exercise bike every day

Naproxen sodium, ice and rest of the affected area.

Methinks Steamship Time has a vicious streak.

Alzheimer's Experment Halted Over Concern About Aleve
Study Involved Celebrex, Naproxen
By PAUL RECER, AP

WASHINGTON (Dec. 21) -- An Alzheimer's disease prevention trial was suspended after researchers said there were more heart attacks and strokes among patients taking naproxen, an over-the-counter pain reliever in use for 28 years and commonly known under the brand name Aleve.

The study, involving some 2,500 patients, was to test whether naproxen or Celebrex, both pain relievers, could reduce the risk of Alzheimer's disease among healthy elderly patients who were at an increased risk of the disease.

Officials at the National Institutes of Health said the study was suspended after three years when it was found that patients taking naproxen had a 50 percent greater incidence of cardiovascular events - heart attack or stroke - than patients taking placebo.

Another factor, officials said, was the announcement last week that advertising for Celebrex was being halted after a study found that high doses of the drug were associated with an increase in heart attack risk. Preliminary data from the Alzheimer's study, however, did not indicate an increased risk for heart attack or stroke for Celebrex, officials said.

Lester Crawford, acting commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, acknowledged Tuesday that the conflicting studies are confusing and call for continued evaluation. For now, he recommended following the dosage recommendations for the drugs.

''Any drug taken long enough and at high enough dosage can cause some difficulty,'' Crawford said on NBC's ''Today.''

''It would be premature to say what we we're going to do with either one of these drugs, Celebrex or Aleve,'' he said. ''However, we will keep all regulator options open and make some determinations as quickly as possible based on the data.''

Officials acknowledged that the implications for the continued use of naproxen are not clear and will require further study.

Dr. Sandra Kweder of the FDA said the NIH study is the first to show that naproxen might increase the risk of heart attack or stroke and that the findings are ''confusing.'' No immediate action, however, is expected toward naproxen, she said.

''We are not contemplating any specific regulatory action over the next few days,'' Kweder said. ''We will be working with the NIH to try to understand the data better and determine what will be appropriate from there.''

Patients who routinely take naproxen should follow the drug package instructions carefully, Kweder said, including the directions to not take it for more than 10 days, and to consult a doctor if pain persists.

Efforts to obtain reaction Monday night produced no answers at phone numbers for Bayer Healthcare, the maker of Aleve.

In the earlier studies of the COX2 drugs, an increase in cardiovascular events was noted only after a long-term use of the medications.

The Alzheimer's disease study was being conducted by the National Institute on Aging, an arm of the NIH. It called for 2,500 patients aged 70 or older and who had a family history of Alzheimer's, to take either Celebrex, naproxen or a placebo.

The group was divided and each division, or arm, was assigned to receive one of the drugs or placebo. The drugs were blinded, which means the patients did not know which medication they were taking, or if they were taking a placebo.

The goal was to determine if the pain-relieving drugs lowered the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease. The study started three years ago and was to continue for a few more years. Officials said the patients in the study will be monitored for developing Alzheimer's or cognitive decline, but will not be given the test drugs.

Dr. Elias A. Zerhouni, the director of the National Institutes of Health, said the study linking heart attack to Celebrex last week was a major factor in deciding to suspend the Alzheimer's study.

He said there was a question whether patients in the study would continue to take their medicine since they knew they might be taking Celebrex.

Suspending the study, Zerhouni said, ''is the prudent thing to do.''

John Breitner of the Veterans Affairs medical facility in Seattle and the University of Washington, an investigator in the trial, said only preliminary data is available. But he said it suggests that among the 2,500 patients in the study, about 70 suffered stroke or heart attack. There were 23 deaths. There were 50 percent more of the cardiovascular events among patients taking naproxen than among those taking placebo, he said.

In trading Tuesday, shares of Aleve's German manufacturer, Bayer AG, and Pfizer Inc., maker of Celebrex, were down. Pfizer shares have fallen more than 13 percent since the company announced Friday that a study had found that high doses of the drug were associated with an increase in heart attack risk.


12/21/04 08:28 EST

Pshaw. Old people get heart attacks and strokes, and they were taking daily dosages of the drug, not treating pain as the product was intended.

Ive been doing both the manly weightlifting stuff( btw you are only supposed to work each muscle group about every 5 days, but do it intensely over 100 reps) and the gay ass aerobics shit.


You're not going to gain shit working with weight that light (100 reps). Keep your reps between 8-12 per movement...hit three warmup sets on compound movements (15,10,5 reps) and then perform one workset to total failure. Check out some of Mike Mentzer's HIT programs. Squat, Bench, Deadlift your ass off. Eat like a horse, sleep 9 hours a night, load up on protein (a gram per pound of bodyweight).

I've been doing a schedule like this:
1. Biceps
2. Abs
3. Chest
4. Back
5. Triceps
6. Legs

And then I'm running or exercise bike every day

Biceps are a tiny muscle group...why devote a whole day to biceps?

Try this:

Monday: Chest, Delts, Triceps

Wedensday: Back, Traps, Biceps

Friday: Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Abs

Been loading up on protein and did lift till exhaustion( increased sleepiness seems to unfortunately come naturally with working out). Didn't do many reps of squats... but my legs still hurt more then my arms despite doing only about 15.

And my arms already are buffer looking then a month ago...

Been loading up on protein and did lift till exhaustion( increased sleepiness seems to unfortunately come naturally with working out). Didn't do many reps of squats... but my legs still hurt more then my arms despite doing only about 15.

And my arms already are buffer looking then a month ago...

Increased sleepiness is OK. You grow when you are sleeping, so getting a lot of sleep is fundamental to recovery.

Where do you get your protein? Shakes?

Used to be egg protein in 1% milk, now its this much better tasting whey stuff.

If you use Dumbells to train biceps, you might want to switch from the "normal" way of holding the bell to a diffrent way.

English :o

Biceps are a tiny muscle group...why devote a whole day to biceps?

Try this:

Monday: Chest, Delts, Triceps

Wedensday: Back, Traps, Biceps

Friday: Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Abs

Cause I find that if I wrok out 3 days instead of six, I end up working out 0.

You're not going to gain shit working with weight that light (100 reps). Keep your reps between 8-12 per movement...hit three warmup sets on compound movements (15,10,5 reps) and then perform one workset to total failure. Check out some of Mike Mentzer's HIT programs. Squat, Bench, Deadlift your ass off. Eat like a horse, sleep 9 hours a night, load up on protein (a gram per pound of bodyweight).

I think he was talking about 100 reps on each muscle thru different sets/exercises.

Used to be egg protein in 1% milk, now its this much better tasting whey stuff.

Yes I got chocolate shake whey. It's no Nestle Quick, but it's alright. Make sure you never by Soy Protein, I heard on Men's Health that it's no good. Use creatine?

The whey has some soy added, Met-Rx ultramyosin fast acting whey protein( vanilla)... taste pretty good actually( yes there are some carbs but only 3g per serving).

Don't use creatine.

I am very fortunate to have a friend at college who literally changed my life around. I was a fat 205 lbs my sophomore year in college, and generally in a miserable mood. I went to see him down the hall way and asked him if he could help me get in shape, since I was tired of looking the way I did. His major at school is excersise science so he was willing to use me as his lab rat lol.

He got me on a lifting program, a diet, and a cardio program for the summer. Suffice to say I've lost almost 30 lbs since starting the program, and I feel much better about myself and the way I look.

Now that I've trimmed all that weight, I've gotten into what thomas said as "pushin serious weight". I lift 5 days a week, targeting a different muscle group each time, making sure to change my workout when i plateau. I am on Whey protein supplements, 100 grams a day from chocolate shake + any protein I take in through food (chicken, tuna, turkey, natural peanut butter). Upping your protein intake considerably WILL make your muscles bigger and stronger. It also has helped me tremendously with my muscle stamina, being able to work longer and harder in the gym. Carbs in the morning very important, normal quaker oatmeal with skim milk. I only drink water ever, or beer when I'm out with friends. Fruits and vegetables with meals very important also.

As far as creatine is concerned, its good to go on if you want to bulk up. It increases your water retension considerably, so make sure to drink lots of water while on it, or the results will not be that good. I also had more energy during my work outs while on creatine. Only problem was I felt bloated while on it, and didnt want to feel that way so i went off of it. I am also on a multivitamin during the day which is important because taking in large quantities of protein each day without getting other nutrients can damage your liver and increase your hair loss. Dont know about you guys, but I'm in not hurry to lose the hair on my head.

I think he was talking about 100 reps on each muscle thru different sets/exercises.
Yes, I don't do too much leg lifts( other then squats) because I do the stairmaster( the death machine much worse then lifting weights) which works out your hammies and other leg muscles fine.

The whey has some soy added, Met-Rx ultramyosin fast acting whey protein( vanilla)... taste pretty good actually( yes there are some carbs but only 3g per serving).

Don't use creatine.

My whey doesn't list any soy

My whey doesn't list any soyCheck other ingredients.

Check other ingredients.

Fructose, Cocoa, Natural Flavorings?

You started working out at the same time I did lol...


Maybe we can have a challenge to see who does better. And then this summer we can have an arm wrestling competition to see who's the better man...
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Or maybe it'd be more like this...
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Guess who you are, Nancy Boy :)

Well if you want tits that big my father is that kind of doctor you fairy.

Well if you want tits that big my father is that kind of doctor you fairy.
Hahahaha! Good one :D