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FadeTheButcher
10-08-2004, 01:50 AM
Organised Christianity is often just as much a menace as Organised Jewry. All Christians are not like that, true. It is impossible to cooperate however with these evangelicals.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/484861.html

Influential American evangelist Pat Robertson said Monday that Evangelical Christians feel so deeply about Jerusalem, that if President George W. Bush were to "touch" Jerusalem, Evangelicals would abandon their traditional Republican leanings and form a third party.

Evangelical Christians - estimated at tens of millions of Americans -
overwhelmingly support Bush for his pro-Israel policies, Robertson told a Jerusalem news conference Monday.

But if Bush shifted his position toward support for Jerusalem as a capital for both Israel and a Palestinian state, his Evangelical backing would disappear, Robertson indicated.

"The President has backed away from [the road map], but if he were to touch Jerusalem, he'd lose all Evangelical support," Robertson said. "Evangelicals would form a third party" because, though people "don't know about" Gaza, Jerusalem is an entirely different matter.

Robertson, an outspoken supporter of Israel who is in the country to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles, also added that visitors to Israel should not be overly critical of the government's political decisions.

He has refrained from overtly criticizing Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's disengagement plan and says only that he hopes the "Israeli people will make the right decision" in matters of territorial concessions.

"It is unwise for a visitor from America to get involved in Israeli politics," he stated at a press conference in the capital's International Convention Center.

Together with an estimated 5,000 Christians from around the world, Robertson has been touring the Holy Land this week, in effort to support and pray for the people of Israel. He led a prayer service on Sunday outside the Knesset, where he blasted Hezbollah, Hamas, and the idea of jihad.

"Arab nations want a conflict and want to keep the suffering of people in Gaza," he said. "They don't want peace; they want the destruction of Israel."

Robertson urged that the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) be abolished, given what he called the organization's active role in the "perpetuation" of the Palestinian refugee problem. He warned that a Palestinian state would become "a constant source of irritation" that would "endanger the territorial integrity" of Israel.

"A Palestinian state with full sovereignty would be a launching ground for various types of weapons, including weapons of mass destruction," the former presidential candidate said.

Thousands of Christians march for Jerusalem
As many as 20,000 marchers were expected to take part in the annual Jerusalem March procession, which was to pass through the heart of the city on Monday the afternoon, among them thousands of Evangelicals and other Christians.

Police officials began closing streets at 1:30 P.M. to allow marchers to pass. Among the central Jerusalem traffic arteries closed, either fully or in sections, were Ben-Zvi, Bezalel, Ben-Yehuda, King George, Jaffa, Shlomzion HaMalka, Koresh, Azza, Agron, Menashe Ben-Israel, HaEmek, HaRav Kook, Havatzelet, Heleni HaMalka, Histadrut, Shammai and Hillel Streets.

Most of the streets were to have been re-opened by 5:30 P.M.

In a gathering of more than 4,000 pilgrims at a Jerusalem convention center Sunday, Robertson warned that some Muslims were trying to foil "God's plan" to let Israel hold on to its lands. The number of pilgrims was about 25 percent higher than the past three years, according to organizers with the International Christian Embassy.

"I see the rise of Islam to destroy Israel and take the land from the Jews and give East Jerusalem to [Palestinian Authority Chairman] Yasser Arafat. I see that as Satan's plan to prevent the return of Jesus Christ the Lord," said Robertson, a Christian broadcaster.

In two Jerusalem appearances, Robertson Sunday praised Israel as part of God's plan and criticized Arab countries and some Muslims, saying their hopes to include Israeli-controlled land in a Palestinian state are part of "Satan's plan."

Robertson, who has made critical statements of Islam in the past, called Israel's Arab neighbors "a sea of dictatorial regimes."

He said he "sends notice" to Osama bin Laden, Arafat and Palestinian militant groups that "you will not frustrate God's plan" to have Jews rule the Holy Land until the Second Coming of Jesus.

Only God should decide if Israel should relinquish control of the lands it captured in the 1967 war, including the Gaza Strip, West Bank and East Jerusalem, Robertson said, in a reference to Sharon's plan to pull out of Gaza next year.

"God says, 'I'm going to judge those who carve up the West Bank and Gaza Strip,'" Robertson said. "'It's my land and keep your hands off it.'"

Blowing rams' horns and exclaiming "Hallelujah," hundreds of pilgrims - including visitors from Norway, England and Germany - gathered in downtown Jerusalem to pray for peace and celebrate Israel's unification of the city with the capture of East Jerusalem in 1967.

Niccolo and Donkey
10-08-2004, 02:02 AM
You are certainly correct that there is no cooperation with the Evangelicals considering their views re: Israel, but this statement by Robertson is little more than election eve politicking to make himself relevant and force Bush to throw this large constituency a bone.

CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
10-08-2004, 11:36 AM
How much more bones can he throw them? They already have most of the carcass. The only thing Bush could do that he isn't doing now is sending troops to Palestine to fight the Palestinians so that the IDF suffers no further losses. Actually, if I heard he was planning that it wouldn't even surprise me.

Petr
10-08-2004, 02:41 PM
Robertson is in all likelihood a bought traitor, a Tartuffean pretender:


Pat Robertson

General Teachings/Activities

- Pat Robertson (circa. 1930) was Chairman of the Board of the cable network "The Family Channel" (TFC), which was founded by the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) of Virginia Beach, Virginia. He was also president of the political action group Christian Coalition. Robertson is the son of a United States senator. He graduated from the Yale University Law School and the New York Theological Seminary, and briefly attended the University of London. Pat Robertson has a mammoth media, educational, and legal empire with an estimated value of a billion dollars. These enterprises work hand in hand to further Robertson's agenda. Robertson's message is carried daily on the "700 Club" talk/news program, via his (now private, for profit) Family Channel, broadcast on almost 10,000 cable systems and reaching some 68 million homes.

The "700 Club," founded by CBN (1977), was funded substantially with monies contributed by CBN donors. Robertson, who piously touts the importance of moral integrity, has yet to answer for the millions that found their way into his pockets in early May of 1992, when he and his son sold public shares in TFC. The network changed its name to the Family Channel in 1989. To protect the tax-exempt status of CBN, Pat Robertson and his son, Tim, spun off the Family Channel in 1990, legally separating it from CBN. In 1992, the Robertsons sold shares of stock for the Family Channel, which resulted in a payoff of over $500 million for CBN. The Robertsons also owned a block of stock. Regeant University, founded by Robertson, has on its sprawling campus a journalism school and law school. Regeant receives funding from Coors beer through the Coors Foundation.

Robertson lives on the top of a Virginia mountain, in a huge mansion with a private airstrip. He owns the Ice Capades, a small hotel, diamond mines (in Zaire), a vitamin company (Kalo Vita) involved in a multi-level marketing scheme along the lines of Amway, and until recently, International Family Entertainment, parent company of the Family Channel (see below) -- all estimated to be worth between $150-200 million. How does a televangelist, who is supposedly involved in non-profit work, manage to create such a fortune for himself? One thing is known for sure, Robertson's numerous private business interests have at times pushed their expenses onto the tax-exempt, religious interests of CBN. For example, Robertson was caught using CBN money and equipment to aid his diamond mining operation -- a double good deal for Pat, seeing as he employed people in Zaire for ridiculously low wages, and managed to use CBN's infrastructure to cut costs even more. In looking at Robertson's businesses, one is struck by the constant use of non-profit, donor money to fund his schemes. (For documentation of this and more, see Rob Boston's book entitled The Most Dangerous Man in America?: Pat Robertson and the Rise of the Christian Coalition.)

- On 6/11/97, Pat Robertson announced his departure as president of the Christian Coalition and the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN). On the same day, Robertson, along with his son , Tim, struck a megadeal with media baron Rupert Murdoch for the sale of International Family Entertainment (IFE), parent company of the Family Channel, for $1.9 billion. In addition, CBN agreed to sell its more than 3.8 million shares of stock in IFE to Murdoch for $136.1 million. (Robertson remains active in both organizations.) The deal enabled Murdoch to take over the Family Channel's cable television audience for his subsidiary, Fox Kids Worldwide. Murdoch intends to transform the Family Channel, which is the ninth-largest cable television network in America, into a network of children's programming that will compete with Time Warner's Cartoon Network and Viacom's Nickelodeon. Under the terms of the sale, Fox Kids is required to continue carrying The 700 Club, which Robertson cohosts, at 10am Eastern time weekdays, and to keep rebroadcasts on at 10pm. Also benefiting from the deal was Regeant University, the graduate school Robertson established in 1977 as CBN University. Having agreed to sell its 4.2 million shares in IFE for $147.5 million, Regeant's total endowment will rise to $276.5 million, making it one of the 100 most highly endowed universities in the country.


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Petr