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FadeTheButcher
09-08-2004, 12:04 PM
Use this thread to list sources that might be of interest for those exploring the Jewish Question.

Quest for Inclusion: Jews and Liberalism in Modern America (2000)
by Marc Dollinger

Torn at the Roots: The Crisis of Jewish Liberalism in Postwar America (2002)
by Michael E. Staub

Fight against Fear: Southern Jews and Black Civil Rights (2001)
by Clive Webb

The Quiet Voices: Southern Rabbis and Black Civil Rights, 1880s to 1990s (1997)
Edited by Mark K. Bauman and Berkley Kalin

Ana Pauker: The Rise and Fall of a Jewish Communist (2001)
by Robert Levy

To Build a Wall: American Jews and the Separation of Church and State (1995)
by Gregg Ivers

Jews against Prejudice: American Jews and the Fight for Civil Liberties (1997)
by Stuart Svonkin

A Time For Healing: American Jewry Since World War II (1992)
by Edward Shapiro

The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000 (2004)
by Hasia R. Diner

The Jews of Modern France
by Paula E. Hyman

Sephardi Jewry: A History of the Judeo-Spanish Community, 14th to 20th Centuries
by Esther Benbassa and Aron Rodrigue

The Jews of Britain, 1656 to 2000
by Todd M. Endelman

Jews and Gentiles: A Historical Sociology of Their Relations (2004)
by Werner J. Cahman, Edited by Judith T. Marcus and Zoltan Tarr

The Fatal Embrace: Jews and The State (1993)
by Benjamin Ginsberg

Community and Conscience: The Jews in Apartheid South Africa (2003)
by Gideon Shimoni

Jewish Power: Inside the American Jewish Establishment (1996)
by J.J. Goldberg

Reminder to Self: Pick up AJP Taylor's book at library.

Kevin_O'Keeffe
09-08-2004, 12:30 PM
Reminder to Self: Pick up AJP Taylor's book at library.

Which one would that be?

FadeTheButcher
09-08-2004, 12:34 PM
I was referring to his Origins of the Second World War.

Jews and the Left (1979)
by Arthur Liebman

Kevin_O'Keeffe
09-08-2004, 01:19 PM
I was referring to his Origins of the Second World War.

I thought you might be. I don't recall it having a lot to do with the Jews (although I wasn't quite as astute about such things when I read it 6-8 years ago) but it certainly does put the French government of that era very decidedly in its place (which, not incidentally, was headed by the Jew Leon Blum).

Geist
09-08-2004, 02:59 PM
I guess I really ought to take some of these out of the library when I get back to college. To see what all the fuss is about.


I'll have a look for these next time I'm there,

A Time For Healing: American Jewry Since World War II (1992)
by Edward Shapiro


The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000 (2004)
by Hasia R. Diner

Jews and Gentiles: A Historical Sociology of Their Relations (2004)
by Werner J. Cahman, Edited by Judith T. Marcus and Zoltan Tarr


The Fatal Embrace: Jews and The State (1993)
by Benjamin Ginsberg

Jewish Power: Inside the American Jewish Establishment (1996)
by J.J. Goldberg

FadeTheButcher
09-08-2004, 03:05 PM
I thought you might be. I don't recall it having a lot to do with the Jews (although I wasn't quite as astute about such things when I read it 6-8 years ago) but it certainly does put the French government of that era very decidedly in its place (which, not incidentally, was headed by the Jew Leon Blum).
It really doesn't. I was just leaving a note for myself to pick up his book (along with some of the other selections on this list) at the library this morning.

Geist
09-08-2004, 03:43 PM
I am having no luck at all finding these books with my college's online catalogue.

Reinhold Elstner
09-09-2004, 12:40 AM
Some of these titles seem definitely self-aggrandising; "Community and Conscience: The Jews in Apartheid South Africa" or "Fight against Fear: Southern Jews and Black Civil Rights". I deeply distrust all Jewish accounts of themselves, even the critical ones, of course they can be useful and informative but definitely demand a "hermeneutics of suspicion". I would have thought Kevin McDonald essential reading for Jew Studies as opposed to Jewish Studies:

A People that Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary (1994)

Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism (1998)

The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements (1998)

wintermute
09-09-2004, 02:34 AM
but it certainly does put the French government of that era very decidedly in its place (which, not incidentally, was headed by the Jew Leon Blum)

Was Blum linked to the 80,000+ postwar murders of rightists?

WM

Kevin_O'Keeffe
09-09-2004, 07:59 AM
Was Blum linked to the 80,000+ postwar murders of rightists?

To be brutally honest, I rather doubt Leon Blum survived until 1945, but who knows?

FadeTheButcher
09-09-2004, 10:39 AM
I deeply distrust all Jewish accounts of themselves, even the critical ones, of course they can be useful and informative but definitely demand a "hermeneutics of suspicion".
Yes. You have to keep in mind that they write these books through the prism of "is this good for the Jews" but actually, more often than not, you can find some good information. Most gentiles do not bother to read them. So you can quite often find the Jews taking credit for some of their more destructive acts. MacDonald cites quite a few of these himself, which is why I checked them out originally.

friedrich braun
09-09-2004, 07:15 PM
When Victims Rule

WHEN VICTIMS RULE
A Critique of Jewish Pre-eminence in America
By: www.jewishtribalreview.org

Online:
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/wvr.pdf

On Power & Ideology: The Managua Lectures
Author: Noam Chomsky

Perspectives on Power: Reflections on Human Nature & the Social Order
Author: Noam Chomsky

FadeTheButcher
09-10-2004, 08:43 AM
This is a very good book about the radicalism of Polish Jewry. MacDonald also cites it. I once wrote a book review on this one for my Eastern European Politics class.

The Generation: The Rise and Fall of the Jewish Communists of Poland
by Jaff Schatz