http://www.mootstormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1010

At any rate, closer analyses show that the skull of Kennewick Man most closely resembles an Ainu or Polynesians. The Ainu are variants of East Asians, and Polynesians are closely related to Southeast Asians. Here are several sources:

I was under the impression that the "hairy Ainu" were originally caucasoid.

Is it just me or does the reconstruction look nothing like the skull it was based on? :confused:

I was under the impression that the "hairy Ainu" were originally caucasoid.

I think the Ainu were descended from the Jomon, which might be a common ancestor of large swathes of people across Eurasia.

I would not be inclined to refer to Kennewick man as "white", since that's a rather nebulous term.

Could we simply say he was Eurasian?


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I was under the impression that the "hairy Ainu" were originally caucasoid.
The Ainu really don't look like other East Asians in fact I think Ainu look kind of like some kind of Hairy Proto-White race. But genetic research hasn’t really shown them to be any more closely related to Whites than any other Northern Asians. My current Japanese teacher thinks Ainu were originally White though, and there for Japanese people are part Caucasian.

The more important thing to consider would be whether he was related to the later waves of Asiatics that our current aboriginals descend from. The issue is not some silly claim that the Caucasian subspecies was here first as a means of legitimising our dominance, but to address the hypocritical role "being here first" in the racial sense plays in aboriginal politics.

There is also Penon Woman. The theory of pre-columbian caucasians in the Americas may be more than a silly idea. I'm open to it.

I think the Ainu were descended from the Jomon, which might be a common ancestor of large swathes of people across Eurasia.

I would not be inclined to refer to Kennewick man as "white", since that's a rather nebulous term.
I wouldn't really call the Ainu or Kennewick man White either.

The word we are using is Caucasian.

The word we are using is Caucasian.
I don't really think the Ainu qualify as Caucasian either.

I'm not surprised, you being asian.

There is also Penon Woman. The theory of pre-columbian caucasians in the Americas may be more than a silly idea. I'm open to it.
I'm open to it as well. This (http://www.thephora.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6551) a little while ago was also pretty interesting. I only meant to say that using these finds to justify Caucasian dominance on the continent is silly.

I'm not surprised, you being asian.
I'm not Asian, I'm White. I just don't think the Ainu are close enough geneticly to other Caucasians to qualify.

Some Ainu (http://dodona.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=guess&action=display&num=1089856124)


X haplogroup dating ~10,000 YBP has been found in North American Indians, that's somewhat indicative of at least some gene flow from Europe to the Americas, and has supporting evidence in the similarities between European Soultrean and Amerind stone tools.

Indian folklore also speaks of a red-haired tribe, the Si-Te-Cah, whom they warred with.

Since Kennewick man won't be able to submit to an ABD test, his exact racial composition won't ever be known.

...I only meant to say that using these finds to justify Caucasian dominance on the continent is silly.

Kennewick Man simply proves that "American Indians" were not necessarily the first group to migrate to the West from the back door.

White dominance is justified because it brought civilization.

I was under the impression that the "hairy Ainu" were originally caucasoid.

Mongolids and Europids split rather late, so I suppose it's possible the Ainu have just retained more proto-Europid traits than other East Asian peoples.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kennwick man had Asian features...after all, I was told that I had Asian features(psudo-Mongoloid, was the term used).

Mongolids and Europids split rather late, so I suppose it's possible the Ainu have just retained more proto-Europid traits than other East Asian peoples.

Mongolids split off from Europids?

Mongolids split off from Europids?
We were supposed to have come from a common ancestor in central Asia about 40,000 years ago.

http://www.mootstormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1010

That source is far from unbiased.

Seems like the jury's still out, and they've found another skull down in Mexico City that's even older and also, Caucasian.

Mongolids split off from Europids?

Here's some information on that split:

http://www.arthurhu.com/2000/05/asplit.txt