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hate edge
01-15-2005, 03:33 AM
As I have seen the issue of the origins of the Hungarians delved into, but not discussed extensively--or rather, handled inappropriately--I would like to espouse the work of the author from the link posted below. It is an excellent scholarly article posited multifariously, and should be found fascinating by many beyond the few Hungarians in audience.

http://www.hunmagyar.org/hungary/history/controve.htm

Sarah
01-16-2005, 07:06 PM
Some thoughts I had while reading this:

1. The Bible is not a historical account of anything and has no anthropological value.

2. Huns and Magyars didn't look the same, didn't speak the same, and beyond the cultural similarities of being nomadic horsemen from 'the east' who dwelled in yurts, there isn't any smoking gun evidence connecting the two.

3. Similarities between languages and writing systems is not really reliable way of tracing origins, it can be used to trace interactions and migrations, though. The Orkhon 'Mongolian rune' alphabet has some characters in common with Nordic runes, but we can't deduce from this that Nordic people are originally from Mongolia.

4. Its true Slavs and other Indo-Europeans have always looked down on Finno-Ugric people as less than civilized, and sought to assimilate them out of existance on many occassions, as is currently happening in the 'Russian' Federation and Baltic states. The Huns and Hungarians were actually much more benevolent than they are given credit for, they were a multicultural confederacy of different tribes and religions, and allowed the minority people who lived amongst them to maintain their languages and identities. I don't believe the horror stories of evil barbaric people wearing animal skins, who had no language, who ate raw meat and drank blood from their enemies' skulls. :rolleyes:

hate edge
01-16-2005, 08:18 PM
The article was fascinating but by no means beyond reproach.

I'll agree with points two and four.

1) The the Bible was written by ideologically motivated and evangelizing authors, and often as a sort of hagiographical work in the case of its protagonists, there are nontheless important historical documentations which can be found by the critical Biblical historian or philologist.

3) In a language, similarities such as the actual words used or cognates thereof may only be indicative of adoption occurring while cultures interacted, though selfsame syntax and grammer across cultures, coupled with reliable dating, may help one find origins in addition to migration patterns.