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Loki
12-17-2004, 01:04 AM
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CLASSICAL ROMAN WRITERS ON RACE MIXING IN ROME



Racial mixing was noted as a phenomenon by numerous Classical Roman authors.



Interracial unions were common enough in the time of the Roman satirist Juvenal (55-27 AD) for him to make specific mention of them. In his Satire VI, Juvenal, while discussing the advisability or otherwise of abortions, warns husbands that their wives may bear mulatto children:

“Grieve not at this, poor wretch, and with thine own hand give thy wife the potion whatever is be for did she choose to bear her leaping children in her womb thou wouldst, perchance, become the sire of an Ethiop, a blackamoor would soon be your sole heir.”



- Juvenal, Satire VI, lines 596 – 600




The Roman writer Martial (38-104 AD), in attacking misconduct by Roman wives, mentions a Roman woman who bore her husband seven children, none of whom is of his ‘race.’ Marital says:





“One of them, with wooly hair, like a Moor, seems to be the son of Santra, the cook. The second, with a flat nose and thick lips, is the image of Pannicus, the wrestler . . . of the two daughters, one is black . . . and belongs to Crotus, the flute player.”



- Martial, VI, 39.




Roman women who had mulatto children were often charged with adultery in Roman courts, with the accusation being that the mixed race nature of their children was evidence of their adultery with slaves or non-White males other than their husbands. A common defense used in Roman courts was that of “maternal impression” which claimed that babies in the womb could be affected by the mother merely viewing, or being close to, non-Whites.



As ridiculous as this defense is, it was used by the famous orator Quintilian (35 – 96 AD) to successfully defend a Roman woman on an adultery charge (Liber Hebr. Quest. In Genesim. Ed Migne: Lat. T. 23, p 985.)



Another famous Roman orator, Calpurnius Flaccus, (circa 2nd Century AD) also discussed the issue of “maternal impression” as an explanation for mulatto children, writing in a work entitled “De Natus Aethiops” (‘Of Ethiopian Birth’) he makes the white wife of a mulatto child say:



“Tell me then, did I love a Negro?” she says. She did not, and asserts that “the element of chance may effect a great deal within the womb.” Of the child’s color, she says: “You see there the skin scorched by an imperfection of the blood.”

- Bibloteca Latina, Vol. 80






Plutarch (De sera numinis vindicta 2I [563]) tells the story of a woman who gave birth to a black child and was accused of adultery, but subsequent investigation revealed that her great grandfather was an Ethiopian.



The Roman scholar Pliny (23-79 AD) mentioned yet another example of mulatto children:



“One certain example is that of the renowned boxer Nicaeus, born at Byzantium, whose mother was the daughter of adultery with a Negro. Her complexion was no different from that of the others [other white women], but her son Nicaeus appeared like his Negro grandfather.”

- Naturalis Historia VII.12.51






THE 'HIDEOUS HYBRID" - CLAUDIAN



Racial mixing also took place in the Roman colonies, and specifically the colony they called ‘Africa’ (this was then what is now known as North Africa, and the Roman name was then given the entire continent).



Claudian (365 – 408 AD) raged against the racial mixing taking place under the ‘Moor’ (‘Maur’) Gildo, who had been appointed to be ruler of the colony of Africa by the emperor Valentian.



Claudian wrote:



“When tired of each noblest matron, (Gildo) hands her over to the Moors. These Sidonian mothers, married in Carthage City, must needs be mate with barbarians. He thrusts upon me an Ethiopian son-in-law. This hideous hybrid affects the cradle.”

- De Bello Gildonico I, 189

QED
12-17-2004, 11:02 AM
Blacks in Rome vs. Blacks in Britain

"The proportion of blacks in the population of Roman Italy is, however, most unlikely to have been as high as in eighteenth century Britain (where the number of blacks has been estimated at between 20,000 and 30,000), even when one allows for exaggeration in the British figures and also subtracts from these figures a considerable number of so-called blacks whom no Roman would perceive as falling within the category Aethiops."

Lloyd A. Thompson. Romans and Blacks. Routledge and Oklahoma University Press, London and Oklahoma, 1989, p. 68


18th century Negro-English miscegenation

"We may compare the report of the personal experience given by the sixteenth century Englishman, George Best, to the effect that the son of a black African by his 'faire' English wife was 'as blacke as the father was,' in which the term 'blacke' signifies not only colour, but a general appearance perceived as a close approximation to the negro type and as very distant from the contemporary English somatic norm. Notable also are two reports by an eighteenth century Fellow of the Royal Society on infants born in England to mixed black and white couples in 1766 and 1747 respectively. In one case, the infant was perceived as 'entirely black, and in every particular of colour and features resembling the father' (a black African); in the other case, the infant daughter of a black Londoner and his white wife was 'as fair a child to look at as any born of white parents, and her features exactly like her mother's', although with 'the right buttock and thigh' as black as her father's."

Thompson, op. cit., p. 75

FadeTheButcher
12-17-2004, 05:56 PM
QED does not point out that those blacks were deported to Sierra Leone.

Ebusitanus
12-17-2004, 09:30 PM
Interracial porn movies today clearly show that the whole west is micenegated. Take some individual instances and infer from them the whole. It was so "commonplace" that it was actually pointed out as something special to be mentioned and to be looked down upon. LOL

CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
12-17-2004, 10:40 PM
Ebus is right. The fact that it is both described in detail and described in a highly disapproving tone tells us clearly what people thought about it.

QED
12-19-2004, 01:23 PM
QED does not point out that those blacks were deported to Sierra Leone.

Uh, not the ones married to English people. And not the mixed-race children of those English people.