I didn't create a multiple option poll because I wanted this to be an open question.

Who do you consider the greatest enemy of western civilization in the last 1000 years?

Let's keep it at least partly serious.

I'm still undecided at the moment by the way.

Ourselves.

Americans are a lazy, apathetic bunch. Our mass culture of entertainment keeps the masses sedated and clueless to the real problems in the world.

Islam has been the traditional enemy of the West.

Who do you consider the greatest enemy of western civilization in the last 1000 years?


I'd have to say Marxism. Muslims in the West would not be a problem but for Marxism's ideological spawn: multi-culturalism and social democracy.

Perhaps this could be broadened to liberalism.

Agree with SST. Marxism and liberalism... corrupting egalitarian ideologies are making us weak.

Marxism, for sure. Islam has only resurged as an enemy because of suicidal immigration policies and the West's support of Israel. Otherwise the Muslims would be as significant as the Ottoman Empire was when it assumed the title 'sick man of Europe.' When Islam was a big threat in itself, the West slowly crushed them.

Capitalism has also been incredibly destructive to Western culture. Corporations and large private banks simply should not be allowed to exist.

Who do you consider the greatest enemy of western civilization in the last 1000 years?

The Mongols.

I can't think of anyone more terrifying and threatening than the Mongols. At the height of their power they not only were the greatest threat to Europe but also conquered China and very nearly vanquished the Japanese.

Islam is the oldest enemy. I think Marxism was just a passing cult. On the other hand, Islam is an entire civilization in its own right. What has been more destructive to us than anything else? Probably our own prosperity. It has enfeebled us.

Using a Spenglerian definition, the greatest enemy of Western culture has been Endarkenment's shallow rationalism, which has turned us into a decaying civilization.

When the cult is gone, the culture will soon follow.


Petr

The Mongols.

I can't think of anyone more terrifying and threatening than the Mongols. At the height of their power they not only were the greatest threat to Europe but also conquered China and very nearly vanquished the Japanese.

You mean these (http://holocaust-history.info/HungarianCommunistVermin1.html) beauties?

-k0nsl

The biggest threat to western civilization and culture has always been and always will be the ---

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Sorry for the double post :/

-k0nsl

I believe the biggest threat to Western civilization came about on the day white governments stopped believing in their own people's racial superiority over non-whites. This began, at least to my eye, not with the defeat of Nazi Germany, but on the day the British Empire began withdrawing from their African, Asian, and Latin America colonies, a forboding hint of worse things to come - such as the niggerization of South Africa's government.

A good novel on this period is Robert Ruark's "Something of Value", which deals with the frightening Mau Mau insurrection in Kenya. Reading that novel, I saw not only the beginning of the end of white rule in Africa, but througout the Western world as well, as more and more white governments came to accept institutionalized "white guilt" as their guiding political philosophy, which, as a result, has given us the ugly, multiculturalized, weeze-all-equal America we know today.

As David Lane so aptly remarked, "A race not convinced of its own uniqueness will ultimately perish..."

http://www.dniprochoir.com/content/events/music-note.gif"I have a strangled cat, I'm very fond of that, but Mummy won't buy me a Mau Mau..."http://www.dniprochoir.com/content/events/music-note.gif

*Taken from a popular nursery rhyme white children in Kenya used to sing, during the savage Mau Mau insurrection, when not only whites - but their pet dogs and cats as well - were murdered.

The Mongols.

I can't think of anyone more terrifying and threatening than the Mongols. At the height of their power they not only were the greatest threat to Europe but also conquered China and very nearly vanquished the Japanese.

The Mongols were awesome, other then the expedition into Europe( which they fortunately didn't conquer due to the Khanan dieing) they were our allies against the muslims.

The cultural Marxists and their Long March through the Institutions.

I think a better question would be, "What are we going to do about it?"

I think a better question would be, "What are we going to do about it?"

I think educating people will be a good start. Many people are 'kept in the dark cellar' when it comes to issues like these, or disgustingly ignorant.

-k0nsl

I didn't create a multiple option poll because I wanted this to be an open question.

Who do you consider the greatest enemy of western civilization in the last 1000 years?

Let's keep it at least partly serious.

I'm still undecided at the moment by the way.

Within your parameters, it has to be Islam, followed by Marxism.

I think educating people will be a good start. Many people are 'kept in the dark cellar' when it comes to issues like these, or disgustingly ignorant.

-k0nsl

Your kidding me right?

People LOVE their dark cellar. They know they are in there, but as long as they have their comforts (SUV's, TV's, latest 'in' fashion) they don't care.

Thast has been my experience.

What would you recommend?

I can't believe the responses on this thread. Are Mongols and Islam the ones who have siezed the means to steer our culture and taken it downhill to homosexuality, feminism and race-mixing? Was Marx a Mongol? Islamic?

I can't believe the responses on this thread. Are Mongols and Islam the ones who have siezed the means to steer our culture and taken it downhill to homosexuality, feminism and race-mixing? Was Marx a Mongol? Islamic?

Travis:

Islam occupied and annihilated the cultures of much of Europe for centuries.

This is much worse than what has been done by others.

Travis:

Islam occupied and annihilated the cultures of much of Europe for centuries.

This is much worse than what has been done by others.
Almost all ethnic groups/tribes/ religious groups/races have battled their neighbors for centuries, but only Jews have covertly and systematically used long term planning to position themselves to herd us to extinction by laying the foundations for race mixing and war with their other potential obstacles, namely Islam. They are by far our most dangerous and clever enemies.

I can't believe the responses on this thread. Are Mongols and Islam the ones who have siezed the means to steer our culture and taken it downhill to homosexuality, feminism and race-mixing? Was Marx a Mongol? Islamic?
Perhaps you should consider the war Islam has been fighting against Europe since its incarnation around 620AD, which still hasn't stopped, during which they took part of France, all of Portugal, Spain, chunks of Italy, Greece, the Balkans, Anatolia, Romania and hit Austria as well. No, I don't think Marxism equals that.

And my answer is: Islam.

Perhaps you should consider the war Islam has been fighting against Europe since its incarnation around 620AD, which still hasn't stopped, during which they took part of France, all of Portugal, Spain, chunks of Italy, Greece, the Balkans, Anatolia, Romania and hit Austria as well. No, I don't think Marxism equals that.

And my answer is: Islam.
Considering that the Jews have had the means to forment wars ever since the early days of the printing presses one should also factor in the genocide caused by many of these wars...White against White... they engineered and financed. This includes most wars in the last 150 years with special emphasis on WW2

"Wars are the Jews harvest, for with them we wipe out the Christians and get control of their gold. We have already killed 100-million of them, and the end is not yet." (Chief Rabbi in France, in 1859, Rabbi Reichorn).

Not disputing your claims about Islamic atrocities but our current greatest threat is the Jews. They are responsible for the current mass genocide of Whites....race-mixing...which they have spent several decades laying the foundations for with their social engineering schemes..

"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."
Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957





The following speech was given by Rabbi Emmanuel Rabinovich before a special meeting of the Emergency Council of European Rabbis in Budapest, Hungary, January 12, 1952:

“The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years is at last within our reach, and because its fulfillment is so apparent, it behooves us to increase our efforts and our caution tenfold. I can safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will take its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king and every Gentile a slave.
We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa. I can state with assurance that the last generation of white children is now being born. Our Control Commissions will, in the interests of peace and wiping out inter- racial tensions, forbid the Whites to mate with Whites. The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White Men with black women. Thus the White Race will disappear, for the mixing of the dark with the White means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark peoples.”

The following speech was given by Rabbi Emmanuel Rabinovich before a special meeting of the Emergency Council of European Rabbis in Budapest, Hungary, January 12, 1952:

“The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years is at last within our reach, and because its fulfillment is so apparent, it behooves us to increase our efforts and our caution tenfold. I can safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will take its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king and every Gentile a slave.
We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa. I can state with assurance that the last generation of white children is now being born. Our Control Commissions will, in the interests of peace and wiping out inter- racial tensions, forbid the Whites to mate with Whites. The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White Men with black women. Thus the White Race will disappear, for the mixing of the dark with the White means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark peoples.”

Do you consider this credible? I've asked around a fair bit and never found anyone with an original copy of the "Canadian Intelligence Service" article, or an explanation of how that publication obtained this information.

Multiculturalism and rap music.

I can't believe the responses on this thread. Are Mongols and Islam the ones who have siezed the means to steer our culture and taken it downhill to homosexuality, feminism and race-mixing? Was Marx a Mongol? Islamic?I hope people are saying "Islam" simply because it has been the more prominent threat over the past centuries. That was really before the rise of International Jewry as a disperse but unified force. At present and for the foreseeable future, the Jews are clearly the biggest threat to Western civ, even though they are not as monolithic in their methods as in their attitudes.

Using a Spenglerian definition, the greatest enemy of Western culture has been Endarkenment's shallow rationalism, which has turned us into a decaying civilization.

When the cult is gone, the culture will soon follow.Are you implying that men are better off enslaved in ignorance and living their lives according to myth and tradition?

Reason, and reason alone, is what sets human beings apart from the lower animals.

Do you consider this credible? I've asked around a fair bit and never found anyone with an original copy of the "Canadian Intelligence Service" article, or an explanation of how that publication obtained this information.
Several months ago, a relative, granddaughter I think of Rabbi Rabinovich, who is a "Jews against Zionism" type wrote a letter exposing this as fact which was published on the Rense.com site. Take it for what you want.
There is ample supporting evidence that Jews have engineered this for over a century: Farrakhan exposed the dominant role Jews played in bringing slaves here. A Jew chiseled the words "Give me your wretched refuse from your teeming shores" in our statue of liberty. Jews got the 1965 immigration act pushed through. Jews created the NAACP. But most of all, The Jewish media/Hollywood/advertising empire has given support and promotion to integration, multiculturalism and race mixing.
Every time you see an advertisement showing people of different races pressed closely together, check the source...almost always a Jew. Then go to Israeli websites and look at their ads....they don't utilize the practice of putting lots of people in ads...a practice they pioneered.

When you find articles giving the "intellectual support" for the idea that "there is no such thing as race", guess what ethnicity the author usually has. There are too many little coincidences from the clever tribe to dismiss these thousands of pin pricks as an accident.They are unravelling our social fabric one thread at a time. They are the principal promoters of gun control, feminism, homosexuality, pornography and race-mixing.

"If anything, the law should encourage, not forbid, the intermingling of bloods...But legislation cannot change the human heart. The only way we can accomplish that, the only we can achieve a Final Solution to racial prejudice, is to create a melange of races so universal that no one can preen himself on his racial 'purity' or practice the barbarism to safeguard it. The deliberate encouragement of interracial marriages is the only way to hasten this process. And it may be that time is growing short. The dominance of our world has begun to shift, like cargo in a listing vessel, from the White races to the colored. The sooner we adjust to this fact, the better it will be for our children. For we might well acknowledge, even the most enlightened of us, that we will never completely eliminate racial prejudice until we eliminate separate races." (Rabbi Abraham L. Feinberg, Maclean's Magazine, September 5, 1967).

- "Are you implying that men are better off enslaved in ignorance and living their lives according to myth and tradition?"


Save us from that "Enlightenment" pep talk. It has already went out of fashion, you know.

"The Twilight of Atheism

The Rise and Fall of Disbelief in the Modern World

...

"A former atheist who is now one of Christianity’s foremost scholars, McGrath traces the history of atheism from its emergence in eighteenth-century Europe as a revolutionary worldview that offered liberation from the rigidity of traditional religion and the oppression of tyrannical monarchs, to its golden age in the first half of the twentieth century. Blending thoughtful, authoritative historical analysis with incisive portraits of such leading and influential atheists as Sigmund Freud and Richard Dawkins, McGrath exposes the flaws at the heart of atheism, and argues that the renewal of faith is a natural, inevitable, and necessary response to its failures."

http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vlink/0385500610BT.html?source=OvertureTFG

(McGrath is a professor at Oxford)

"Too-morrow belongs to mee..."

:D


Petr

European Imperialism -

Creating the European empires put the white race as public enemy no.1
Retreating from those Empires dealt our race a huge dent in self-confidence.

Not to mention the biggest mistake of all.. bringing civilisation to the blacks.
They have been our burden ever since and are slowly dragging our societies to their level, while other races are enjoying a renaissance.

European Imperialism -

Creating the European empires put the white race as public enemy no.1
Retreating from those Empires dealt our race a huge dent in self-confidence.

Not to mention the biggest mistake of all.. bringing civilisation to the blacks.
They have been our burden ever since and are slowly dragging our societies to their level, while other races are enjoying a renaissance.
I agree more or less with this guy.

Christianity.

How Christianity Harms the Race
– by Michael W. Masters

“The Roman empire did not die any differently, though, it's true, more slowly, whereas this time we can expect a more sudden conflagration . . . . Christian charity will prove itself powerless. The times will be cruel.”
– Jean Raspail, introduction to the 1985 edition of The Camp Of The Saints

Christianity, which many believe to be the noblest moral system ever conceived, must now share blame for the dissolution of the West. A faith that once served as an anchor for Western civilization has become a source for the same self-flagellating guilt that typifies liberalism. Today, Christianity's public expression differs only cosmetically from Marxism in its attitudes towards economic redistribution, equality and racial integration.
How has Christianity sunk so low – and our people with it? The answer is that it has subverted inbred traits of altruism that help family and tribe survive, and has transmuted those traits into agents of passivity and surrender. Christianity has universalized altruism, thus stripping us of our defense against multiracialism. Today's Christianity drives us to betray our own interests to whoever asks. At the same time, a preoccupation with eternal reward in the world to come blinds some Christians to the consequences of their actions today.

Christianity's Decline

Christianity has universalized altruism thus stripping us of our defense against multiracialism

Loss of racial loyalty is recent. For centuries, race consciousness posed no moral dilemma to Christians. That “old-time religion” was good enough for Charles Martel when he smashed the Muslim invasion of Europe in 732 at Tours. It was good enough for Pope Urban II when he launched the Crusades in 1095. It was good enough for Columbus and Magellan, who claimed newly-discovered lands in the name of both king and faith. It was good enough for European colonial masters who ruled millions of non-whites, untroubled by egalitarian scruples.

Christianity's divorce from racial consciousness was both sudden and recent. Only in the 20th century did “secular humanism” infiltrate virtually every mainline Christian organization. By the 1960s, organized Christianity was working hand in hand with organized Judaism to dismantle the South's self-protective wall of racial hierarchy. The universalist campaign continues to this day, with ordination of women and soon, one fears, homosexuals.

What transformed the church? The problem is that Christian dogma has always contained dangerous moral precepts that undermine the natural instinct for group preservation. These precepts may be summarized thus: Sacrifice yourself today for the benefit of others, buoyed by faith in an “eternal reward.”

In earlier times, this idea posed little danger to white survival because it was preached by whites living in an almost all-white world. Today, on a crowded planet filled with envious Third-World people, its consequences are lethal. The mentality of sacrifice has resulted in an inability to assert the imperative of survival – an imperative that puts family, tribe and nation at the center of moral life.

Christianity must therefore share a major part of the blame for the abnormal belief that we must commit racial suicide in order to be “moral.” This is not, of course, to lay blame solely on Christianity, but neither should Christianity escape examination solely because it has long been the guardian of the moral beliefs of Western peoples.

What then, are the beliefs that characterize today's self-destructive Christianity? They are altruism and universalism. These two beliefs so dominate public Christian discourse that they are contradicted from no more than a handful of pulpits – even in the American South, where ministers once invoked God in defense of segregation.

Altruism

Let us first consider altruism, the Good Samaritan reflex. The Golden Rule – which is the ideal of Christian conduct – exalts altruism, or acts beneficial to others without regard for one's own interests. If followed by everyone, surely the Golden Rule would produce world peace and harmony.

In fact, universal altruism has unintended consequences, some of which are shocking to Christian sensibilities. Biologist and human ecologist, Garrett Hardin, explained why in his 1968 essay, “The Tragedy of the Commons:” “Conscience is self-eliminating from a population.” (The tragedy of the commons is the tendency to over-exploit any resource that is available for all to share but that exacts little or no cost from any one user.) Prof. Hardin first makes his point with respect to voluntary birth control, then generalizes it:

“People vary. Confronted with appeals to limited breeding, some people will undoubtedly respond to the plea more than others. Those who have more children will produce a larger fraction of the next generation than those with more susceptible consciences . . . . The argument here has been stated in the context of the population problem, but it applies equally well to any instance in which society appeals to an individual exploiting a commons to restrain himself for the general good – by means of his conscience. To make such an appeal is to set up a selective system that works toward the elimination of conscience from the race.”
A self-sacrificing conscience and unfettered altruism, are self-eliminating.


Conscience is eliminated because it is not randomly distributed in a population but is to some degree inherited from parents. Even if willingness to restrict breeding for the good of all is only slightly heritable, an appeal to conscience will steadily remove it from the population. The fact that self-sacrificing conscience, or in a broader sense, unfettered altruism, is self-eliminating is a fundamental truth with which any lasting moral order must contend.

There must be a dual code of morality – one for one's own group and another for everyone else. Harsh as this may sound both to Christians and non-Christians, nature will inexorably eliminate the flawed genes of any group that fails to make this distinction.

In fact, we take the dual code for granted. We devote much of our lives to rearing our own children but we ignore the children of strangers – an obvious double standard. We save the lives of our comrades in battle but we kill the enemy – another double standard. The universal altruism of the Golden Rule undercuts both forms of group loyalty. After all, we might well wish that strangers would devote themselves to our children. If we took the Golden Rule seriously we might then devote ourselves to the children of others and neglect our own. Likewise the Golden Rule might require us to betray our own side to the enemy, inasmuch as that is what we might want done for us. Clearly, groups and individuals that behaved this way would not pass on their perverted morality to many descendants.

Some will object that Prof. Hardin's prediction about the self-elimination of conscience is demonstrable false, since it still exists. Nevertheless, what matters is the time scale. Conscience- obsessed Western man is declining in numbers, and his morality and behavior are declining with him.

Universalism

Today's Christians have confused the Biblical injunction to be our brother's keeper – a moral code based on blood kinship – with the opposite notion that every human on earth is our brother. More than a century ago, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon observed, “If everyone is my brother, I have no brothers.” Prof. Hardin adds: “Universalism is altruism practiced without discrimination of kinship, acquaintance- ship, shared values, or propinquity in time or space.”

Biblical testimony on universalism is, in fact, mixed. The Old Testament praises altruism only within the community, and commands the Children of Israel to shun other peoples. For example, Deuteronomy 7:2-3 reads:

“ 2 When the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee, thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them; 3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. . . .”

One finds national and presumably racial separatism in the New Testament as well. Acts 17:26 reads,

“[He] hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed and the bounds of their habitation.”

Matthew 25:31-32, in which Christ speaks of his future reign, adds:
“When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations; and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats.”

But all too often the New Testament, particularly in the letters of Paul, promotes universalism. Today's Christians love to cite passages such as Galatians 3:28-29:
“ 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond or free, male or female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

Christianity Today

It is on the basis of passages like this that Christianity has abandoned the defense of our people and has become an accomplice of those who would displace us. The National Council of Churches donated money to Marxist revolutionaries in Africa – revolutionaries who sometimes murdered white missionaries. The Southern Baptist Convention's leadership recently bowed before its one black member, apologizing for slavery and racism. Typically, the black member showed little gratitude for the gesture, complaining that not nearly enough had been done to alleviate the lingering effects of slavery.

Like their atheist counterparts, Christian trend-setters preach what amounts to the dissolution of the white race. Christian Coalition founder, Pat Robertson, supports more immigration from “south of the border” because the newcomers are nominally “Christian,” support “family values,” and are “our kind of voters.”

Mr. Robertson seems not to realize that Mestizo Christianity is often based on “revolution theology,” and its symbol is a Christ-figure with arms upraised, brandishing an AK-47 assault rifle. Revolution theology will help create “Aztlan,” the Bronze Continent, the new home of La Raza – literally, “the race.” Even a nominally Christian Aztlan would effectively decapitate Christianity as Mr. Robertson understands it, since altruistic universalist Christianity is largely a habit of Western people.

Too much Sacrifice.

Billy Graham goes one further and says that the only solution to our race problem is for us to breed with non-whites until human differences disappear. He says we must take alien peoples into our hearts and our homes and, yes, “into our marriages.”

With ministers preaching racial suicide, Christianity may now be more of a threat to our survival than liberalism. At least with liberalism, one recognizes the enemy. But when Christian leaders take liberal positions, they leave the flock defenseless. Ralph Reed and Billy Graham are our opponents, no less than Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.

The Wall Street Journal recently ran a front page story titled “Racial Reconciliation Becomes a Priority For the Religious Right:”

“[T]he most energetic element of society [today] addressing racial divisions may also seem the most unlikely: the religious right.
“Across the country, conservative congregations and denominations, while sticking to other stringent principles of conservative religious thinking such as the proscription of homosexuality and abortion, are embracing a concept called ‘biblical racial reconciliation’ – a belief that as part of their efforts to please God, they are required by Scripture to work for racial harmony.”

If even “the Christian right” has become part of the rout of traditional Christianity; it is because the New Testament opens the door to universalism. Oswald Spengler wrote that “Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism,” and indeed, ministers routinely preach the “social” gospel, invoking a universalism that differs little from the agenda of the radical left.
A Chimera

Yet ironically, the universalist goal is a chimera. Since those who displace us do not, by definition, maintain our moral standards – for if they did they would not be replacing us – our flawed moral system will vanish with us. As Prof. Hardin explains in his 1982 essay, “Discriminating Altruisms,” “[universalism] cannot survive in competition with discrimination.” A group that practices universal altruism – and whites are the only group that does – cannot compete against groups that do not.

Some Christians would say that none of this matters because believers will one day ascend to their reward in Heaven. However, the vision of Heaven can subvert the imperative of survival. If, in their fervor to enter Heaven, Christians fail to have children or to build a nation in which their children can maintain their way of life, the race will not continue. It is worth noting that Heaven is an entirely personal reward, which can be pursued at the expense of family, tribe or race. Selfishness thus joins universalism in modern Christianity, completely inverting nature's design of loyalty to family and tribe.

Christianity's flaws did not threaten us until technology and ideology made their consequences felt on a world-wide scale. Now, our moral code must renounce universalism and emphasize our own survival. Unless we adopt moral beliefs in keeping with the realities of today's demographics, we will not survive the mounting wave of Third World immigration, procreation and miscegenation. It is in this sense that, as Jean Raspail says, “Christian charity will prove itself powerless.” Christian charity can hardly stop a demographic displacement that it helped set in motion.

Christians must return to that “old-time religion.” Today's version is destroying us.

Link: www.amren.com/979issue/979issue.html#article3

I would take a much more hardline position then the author of this article, but he gets to many of the main points.

Judging from the Zionist Evangelicals of the Republican Bush crowd I think it is possible that even Satanists are better for White Peoples.

In fact there is a thread that delves into that a little:

Satanism And Racialism: Dividing Lines and Common Ties
Link: www.thephora.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5072

- "I would take a much more hardline position then the author of this article, but he gets to many of the main points.

Judging from the Zionist Evangelicals of the Republican Bush crowd I think it is possible that even Satanists are better for White Peoples. "


Christianity created the whole concept of Western Culture, you dumbo.

(Ancient Greeks felt themselves culturally much closer to the Middle East than to Northern Europe)

Jean Raspail is an overrated misanthropic defeatist.

Any man who thinks that Satanism is "good for Whites" is laughably out of touch with reality, or rather blinded by his hatred of Christianity.

For all their faults, White Evangelicals make much more White babies and are more socially conservative than your average neo-pagan.


Petr

Christianity created the whole concept of Western Culture, you dumbo.
Yes, you 'dumbo', Petr is always right. As Western Culture, is still what it used to be and thus may not be critized.

Gee, After all these posts I would've thought you, a great intellectualist such as yourself, would've figured out how to quote properly. But I guess that's 'irrelevant' and was very 'nazistic' of me in the first place to bring up.

You sound like a broken record. Why are you suddenly so cranky and self-pitying?


Petr

Our greatest enemy is ourselves, giving the average masses the choice to decide their own destiny-primarily, though the answer to this should be more complex.

Petr I never stated that Satanism is good for Whites, only that when compared to Christianity "it is possible that even Satanists are better for White Peoples"

Do you understand the difference between good and better?????

Also your habit of name-calling (in this case, Dumbo) is very UnChristian. I would like the name, phone number and email address of your pastor so that I can inform him of your UnChristian like behavior on this forum, assuredly he would not want anyone of his flock acting in such a manner.

- "Do you understand the difference between good and better?????"

Yes I do, and you are wrong anyways.


- "Also your habit of name-calling (in this case, Dumbo) is very UnChristian."

Nothing more pathetic than a pagan thinking that he can lecture believers about being Christian.

Here's some name-calling for you:

Matthew 23:17:

"You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the sanctuary that has made the gold sacred? "


Here's an article on the topic:

"Offensisensitivity"

Is It "un-Christian" to Engage in Satire? "

"The art of insult was highly valued in antiquity. Our modern "victim culture" encourages persons to find the art offensive, but before getting too judgmental, consider that in these honor challenges, the person who ended the game by throwing a punch was considered the big loser. Losing one's temper and throwing a punch was as much an admission that one could not keep up the battle of wits and had to resort to violence."

http://www.tektonics.org/lp/madmad.html


Petr

Alright so then you admit that it is alright for Christians to insult non-Believers. Good sale.

So much for Christians having some sort of vaunted moral high ground.

It is apparent that Varg Vikernes was indeed doing a service for Man-kind when he committed acts of arson on Churches.

- "Alright so then you admit that it is alright for Christians to insult non-Believers. Good sale."

What a ridiculous sight for a might-is-right heathen to start weeping about how nasty those Christians are.

Cry me a river, ninny.

:p


- "So much for Christians having some sort of vaunted moral high ground."

You really seem to have bought into that media-promoted idea of Christians being some sorts of doormats for mighty heathen to wipe their feet on. Sorry to shatter your laughable illusion.


- "It is apparent that Varg Vikernes was indeed doing a service for Man-kind when he committed acts of arson on Churches."

You just keep on discrediting yourself by associating with despicable, impotent trash like Vikernes.


Petr

For the record I do not believe in 'might is right' as Petr asserts. I do indeed believe in morality.

Also note his use of the insult "ninny". You are not winning any converts. (Indeed I am heartened by the fact that White peoples, especially in Europe, are leaving the Christian faith in droves! Looks like I am winning! YES!)

- "I do indeed believe in morality."

I guess that's why you're so enthusiastic about Varg Vikernes and his scummy deeds.


- "(Indeed I am heartened by the fact that White peoples, especially in Europe, are leaving the Christian faith in droves! Looks like I am winning! YES!)"

You drooling little pansy. There are a lot more committed Christians than Nazis in Europe nowadays.


Petr

Who do you consider the greatest enemy of western civilization in the last 1000 years?Extend that to the last 1300 years and it's really no contest at all, Islam was the greatest threat (and it still is of course)

Multiculturalism, where all cultures are valued and considered equal next to our own. Free immigration, where we let people into our countries who show no allegiance to them and who are often an economic burden. The US should go back to pre 1965 immigration law. Then there’s the environmentalist view of human intelligence. It has made possible the insane idea that any economic disparity between whites and whoever is clear evidence of white racism and must be combated with quotas. In short American style left wing Marxism.

The ideological offspring of cultural Marxists.

The Mongols.

I can't think of anyone more terrifying and threatening than the Mongols. At the height of their power they not only were the greatest threat to Europe but also conquered China and very nearly vanquished the Japanese.

Had the Khan not drank himself to death as the Golden Horde was poised to sweep into Europe, it's quite likely that the whole of Europe would have been ravaged by the fearsome Mongols.

However I don't see this as having been a threat on the magnitude of egalitarianism*, which was a force to be reckoned with even before Marxism. Such ideology is far more enduring than nomadic conquerors who,although the most fearsome fighting force of antiquity, lose their sting as soon as they become settled people.

Islam is right up there though, as the contrast with Islam is one of the ways that western culture essentially defines itself.

*from whence the plagues of 'enviornment over heredity', anti-racism, race-denial, and multiculuralism arose. "Liberty, equality, fraternity"

That defining contrast with islam becomes quite grim when you consider that those idiots in the EU voted to start negotiations for membership with Turkey today.