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CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
09-20-2004, 11:55 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/3671372.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/3671372.stm)

Camacho set to quit Real


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40140000/jpg/_40140029_camacho_emp203.jpg Camacho's reign could prove short-lived

Real Madrid coach Jose Antonio Camacho has tendered his resignation after the club's poor start to the season.

Spanish state radio said Camacho had told Real chairman Florentino Perez he was quitting and would resist pressure to reconsider.

Real are holding a board meeting about Camacho and will make an announcement about his position on Monday afternoon.

"Everything will be decided at Monday's meeting at the Bernabeu," Perez told the Efe news agency.

Real lost 1-0 at Espanyol on Saturday as their indifferent form continued.

That defeat came hot on the heels of Wednesday's Champions League 3-0 drubbing at Bayer Leverkusen which drew fierce criticism in Spain.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gifQueiroz sacked by Real (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/3742779.stm)



The 49-year-old Camacho has only been in the post since taking over from Carlos Queiroz in May.

He was fired after the nine-times European champions could only reach the last eight of the Champions League last season and finished fourth in La Liga.

Camacho was a stalwart with Real as a player, making more than 400 appearances between 1973-89 and winning nine Spanish league titles, three Spanish Cups and two Uefa Cups.

He won 81 caps for Spain and played in the 1982 and 1986 World Cups. He is currently in his second stint as coach at Real, where he lasted just three weeks in the summer of 1998 before resigning over a disagreement with former chairman Lorenzo Sanz. Camacho then went on to coach the Spanish national side for four years, after which he returned to the Bernabeu via a short stint with Portugal's Benfica.

Niccolo and Donkey
09-20-2004, 07:09 PM
Too many chiefs....not enough Indians.

This is heresy on a board full of racialists, but they should have never gotten rid of Makelele.

Mynydd
09-21-2004, 10:02 AM
I know next to nothing about soccer, but at least I do know that you need a team to win, not a club of queeny stars and majorettes. It's ridiculous and I wish them the worst.

Besides, how can someone support with such fanatism ''his local team'' when most players are outsiders and foreigners? Same thing with national teams. Some nations' teams are a ****ing joke. If it's Spain's national team, all players should be Spanish, not luxury immigrants and mercenaries. At least we still have that thing safe here in Spain, unlike other nations.

Soccer sucks.


P.S.: one of the few times that I've enjoyed some news about soccer have been when the Numancia, a second or third division team from a small town, beated Real Madrid and Barça. It is a pleasure to see how the will of some largely unknown men with a budget that barely allows them to pay for the clothing, beats those queenies with billionaire contracts.

CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
09-21-2004, 11:49 AM
I agree, it's always fun to see a little team beat a huge so called worldclass team. I always cheer when I see Madrid lose, and last week, they lost big from Bayer Leverkusen, a German team.

Mynydd
09-21-2004, 12:32 PM
*Grumph* I said that I liked it when they lose against small town teams with low budgets, not against a German team. :(

For you Dutch people soccer seems to be more important than anything else. A friend from Groningen who lives here is a club member of the local team, attends all matches, and the results affect his mood. Why? What does he care if they lose or win? It's beyond my comprehension. :confused:

Anyway. I never watch soccer and I really know little to nothing about it. That is a social problem. In some (many) crowds you are expected to be able to speak about soccer. It is boring and depressing.

On one occasion, a friend of mine who works as a PR for a big soccer clothes firm came to my town. He was invited to attend the wedding of a goal keeper and he was invited with ''one companion''. This was supposed to be his wife or girlfriend, but he came alone. So he asked me to come along. Knowing my total ignorace about soccer, he told me to agree with everything peopled said (applying some criteria), and not to speak unless asked to. LOL.

I was told that most there were stars, but I didn't know anyone. I tried and it worked fine for a while. But it didn't take long until some guy asked me a couple of questions (apparently an old star), and then smiled at me and asked... you are not into soccer, right?. It was too obvious to deny it and the rest of the people on the table were looking at me. My friend tried to save the minute, but I smiled back at the crowd and replied... well, I've seen some on TV on some occassions, and in fact I'm sure that I had seen your faces somewhere before now. Uh... general silence... and then a loud, big general laughter. They even greeted me for being a rara avis, a rarity. I was tempted to take advantage of the good general mood and try to divert the conversation to politics or something else, but fortunately I remembered that those guys are not very bright outside the field.

CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
09-22-2004, 07:55 AM
That German team works on a budget 1/4th the size of that of Madrid's.

Oh, let's get one thing straight: I'm NOT Dutch. I'm Flemish.

Mynydd
09-22-2004, 09:45 AM
That German team works on a budget 1/4th the size of that of Madrid's.I refered to clubs with budgets really tiny when compare to the biggies.

Oh, let's get one thing straight: I'm NOT Dutch. I'm Flemish.I assumed that Flemish people are, and consider themselves, Nederlanders.

CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
09-22-2004, 11:02 AM
We don't. I'm not mad or so, I just wish to draw the distinction.