Tell me your opinion towards the german dictator.What do you think about the "Führer"?I think my opinion is clear,I'm a german nationalist and political a nationalsocialist.What about you?

He accomplished many great things, especially on the domestic front. And I agree with him on most issues. Its too bad he threw it all away in order to pursue his romantic fantasy of expanding East at the expense of the Slavs. Well. Nobody is perfect.

"The Hero of the Twentieth Century"

I think of him as a visionary who overreached. I have not spent a lot of time studying Reich history, but right now I think his international strategy was horrid. He was easily manipulated into declaring war on the US and if he hadn't decided to dive head first into expansionist war, Germany might still be healthy and judenrein today. It is unfortunate that he was not balanced by a larger dose of pragmatism.

I look upon that period of history as a tragedy, and thus Hitler as a tragic character.

I think of him as a visionary who overreached. I have not spent a lot of time studying Reich history, but right now I think his international strategy was horrid. He was easily manipulated into declaring war on the US and if he hadn't decided to dive head first into expansionist war, Germany might still be healthy and judenrein today. It is unfortunate that he was not balanced by a larger dose of pragmatism.

I look upon that period of history as a tragedy, and thus Hitler as a tragic character.


If you haven't spent any time in studying our history, then how can you make such comments? sounds like something one could find at SF or Allied Historybooks.
Returning Danzig to the Reich is hardly "overreaching". As for the Jew-S-A, they were allready at war with us since 1938. Embargos, Closing of our embassy, support for our enemys with material, intelligence and even taking part in hostilitys against our armed forces.

Hitler - our Führer - the Father of our Fatherland! I can not express in words my feelings towards him, they are so great.

Tell me your opinion towards the german dictator.
"Dictator"?! :eek:

Unerhört! :mad:

:: Returning Danzig to the Reich is hardly "overreaching".

How about Crimea?

Tell me your opinion towards the german dictator.What do you think about the "Führer"?I think my opinion is clear,I'm a german nationalist and political a nationalsocialist.Even if you are German and National Socialist, you will have an opinion of your own. Or? :confused:


What about you?I'll keep mine for myself as I fear that it is not in the mainstream of thought of the board members, and I do not wish to engage on yet another long debate. At least for now. Probably never on this particular issue.

But I will say that I find extremely interesting and it surprised me much some threads I read on Skadi and the Nordish Portal, by one Njörd Eriksson, where he defended the figure of Von Stauffenberg against all odds. To my surprise he was making very valid points there. What did not come as a surprise to me was the vehement disagreement with which he was met by most (if not all) Germanic members on one of the boards. I would blame it in that it was too much common sense for them to chew and swallow.

Note apart, some would suspect the author's intention was [too] to write on a highly controversial issue among a given sector, and to provoke some [profitable?] polemics with it.

I am well aware of US actions, Brandt, which is why I say he was baited into it instead of declaring war on the poor, innocent wittle US like the history books say. Regardless of that, Germany was not in the position to openly take on the US on top of everyone else.

He accomplished many great things, especially on the domestic front. And I agree with him on most issues. Its too bad he threw it all away in order to pursue his romantic fantasy of expanding East at the expense of the Slavs. Well. Nobody is perfect.


Actually thats one of the areas Hitler had an excuse for... Stalin did plan to attack the Reich in 1942.

As a nationalsocialist it's clear that you are agreeing with Hitler.Yes I got my own opinion.For me Hitler is like,I can't even find a word to express my feelings towards him.He's the greatest man and politic ever.He's my father,the father of the german people,of our nation.Yes and he's my leader,like a god holding me in his hand.I look up to him,he's the light that shines on me,like the sun...
My english is to bad to explain this in detail.

Who you talking too...

If you think im a National Socialist ive got a great deal to offer on the Brooklyn Bridge... for 50% more ill clear out all the jews and minorities from around your property too. Im cutting me own throat.

As a nationalsocialist it's clear that you are agreeing with Hitler.Yes I got my own opinion.For me Hitler is like,I can't even find a word to express my feelings towards him.He's the greatest man and politic ever.He's my father,the father of the german people,of our nation.Yes and he's my leader,like a god holding me in his hand.I look up to him,he's the light that shines on me,like the sun...
My english is to bad to explain this in detail.

Hitler might as well be raised to transcendent hero status. Why not? It doesn't really matter whether the myths surrounding him are mainly accurate or not. He does in fact represent the archetype of defender of the West, and he deserves the honor.
Of course he made mistakes and the main ones were misjudging Britain and the United State's reaction to his brinkmanship, as well as his desire to turn Russia into a German farm.

It's very hard to form an objective and unbiased opinion of someone like Hitler considering how passionate and overwhelming the expressions of both the "anti" and "pro" views are.

I guess I can only say for sure that I respect him for being such a great historical figure but I refuse to believe he was either a hero or a demon (despite this moderate view I still get to be called a "nazi" by dumb leftists).

I am not a Hitler fan. But neither am I some anti-racist hack who is unable to understand that sometimes bad people have good attributes, and vice versa.

Of course he made mistakes and the main ones were misjudging Britain and the United State's reaction to his brinkmanship, as well as his desire to turn Russia into a German farm.So let's see. He miscalculated with Britain, with the U.S., and with Russia. He also managed to mismanage the Jewish question, so that today they are, thanks to him, more powerful than they were ever before and, if that wasn't enough, untouchable.

Surely he had to do something right to at least justify a part of the admiration professed on this forum.

Who you talking too...

If you think im a National Socialist ive got a great deal to offer on the Brooklyn Bridge... for 50% more ill clear out all the jews and minorities from around your property too. Im cutting me own throat.I think that she was talking of herself on second person.

The fact is that the people who accuse their opposites of turning FDR/Churchill/whoever into perfect demigods are hardly innocent of it themselves.

By which I mean the whole attempt to act as though Hitler never made a miscalculation, Hitler never acted in a way that was unjust, Hitler was the world's greatest military mind, etc etc, and anything bad that happened wasn't his fault.

It's complete bollocks. I mean, it's a sign of intellectual weakness to not be able to accept a mixed basket.

Its always easy to be a critic with the benefit of hindsight too. Britain did look more or less defeated by '41. The U.S. did look like it would inevitably enter the war. Stalin was biding his time. We will never know what course events would have taken had Barbarossa not been launched.

Surely he had to do something right to at least justify a part of the admiration professed on this forum.

He took up arms in defense of a West that is being murdered before our very eyes. I for one believe had Hitler won the war 1 in 10 Frenchmen wouldn't be Muslim; the most common name for a newborn boy in Holland wouldn't be Mohammed; British youth would comprise the majority in London schools; and White people in general wouldn't go to prison in Europe for speaking racial truths.

Well put, bardamu.

Well put, bardamu.
Greatest man in history.

I like both Hitler and especially Mussolini. What fiery, romantic men, ah, but now we see a West that is very different and cannot rely on these dead men to solve anything. :(

I for one believe had Hitler won the war 1 in 10 Frenchmen wouldn't be Muslim;There has been a few cases of NS people who in the last years have converted to Islam, out of their hatred for the Jews. Who knows if he would have ended up looking at Islam as a convenient religion? The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was much appreciated.

One thing that I find positive is the segregation of the lands of the Old Occitania from France, through the regime of Vichy. Perhaps Brittany too? Both Occitanists and Breton independentists supported the Germans.

the most common name for a newborn boy in Holland wouldn't be Mohammed;ROFL. I was thinking that the Dutch might look very cute, men with their clogs and a towel on their head, and women with the clogs showing from underneath the burka.


As for the rest, his great leadership brought the Bolsheviks as far West as Moscow, and beyond had it not been for the US.

but now we see a West that is very different and cannot rely on these dead men to solve anything. :(

Surely not,but we can rely on Hitler's ideas and we can use them for our political system now!

Our circumstances have radically changed since Hitler's time. Bolshevism is dead. Britain, France, America, and Russia are armed with nuclear weapons (as is Israel, a Jewish state). The European Union has been created. Europe is flooded with millions of Muslims and other nonwhites who threaten to demographically overwhelm us. Liberal Capitalist Democracy has triumphed across the world. Germans are crippled and paralyzed by what they call 'morality'. American power is in decline. Russia continues to disintegrate. Japan is in decline. European birthrates have been below the replacement level for decades. The burden of the elderly will soon fiscally crush several European nations, Germany amongst them. Our people have no sense of racial or ethnic identity anymore. They are nothing but mere consumers, so decadent they cannot even reproduce themselves. This is the world in which we live. Any successful, realistic movement for change will have to adjust itself to this world situation which is beyond our control.

I do not know a great deal about Hitler, but based on what I do know, my feelings about him are generally positive. My admiration of him is based primarily on his keen understanding of the Jewish question.

On the other hand, I am no fan of collectivist politics that revolve around a "great leader" -- such systems inevitably make cattle out of people, and I bow down to no other mortal man. I have one master: myself. That is not, however, the same thing as being selfish. I fully acknowledge certain responsibilities I have to my race, but I will interpret and fulfill those responsibilities as I see fit.

Just as it is possible to be an extreme individualist while loving and caring for your family, so is it possible to be an extreme individualist while remaining loyal to your race. If you want to contribute to the racial struggle -- and desires are very much an aspect of the individual -- then you will contribute wholeheartedly while retaining your individuality.

So, while I wholly reject the aspect of Nazi (or any other collectivist) philosophy that puts other men on a pedestal and would require me to simply do as I'm told -- particularly by those who are less intelligent than I am -- I certainly do have Nazi sympathies, and they apply to Hitler as well. He is worthy of admiration because, at the very least, he had a vision that he was willing to follow through to his death.

He accomplished many great things, especially on the domestic front. And I agree with him on most issues. Its too bad he threw it all away in order to pursue his romantic fantasy of expanding East at the expense of the Slavs. Well. Nobody is perfect.

well said "fadeberg"

Adolf Hitler was the greatest man of the last 500 years. He was a throwback to an earlier, greater age. The Jews planned him to some extent however.

Collectivist policies were and are necessary to deal with the Weltfeind. After the Final Victory the government could be minimised.

Adolf Hitler, SIEG HEIL!

To sum up Hitler in a few words is all but impossible.
Few members are wiling to acept what Sinclair called the " basket of mixed fruit " , my own views on Hitler would not be postive , the "bad" does outweight the "good" .
To me he was a man blinded by hate , his ego knew no bounds and he was given to creating his own relaity when things around him became not to his liking.
His interference in Army operations cost Germany the war.

To sum up Hitler in a few words is all but impossible.
Few members are wiling to acept what Sinclair called the " basket of mixed fruit " , my own views on Hitler would not be postive , the "bad" does outweight the "good" .
To me he was a man blinded by hate , his ego knew no bounds and he was given to creating his own relaity when things around him became not to his liking.
His interference in Army operations cost Germany the war.
Thats pretty much my view. A lot of people, though obviously not many on this board, cannot see any redeeming quality about him at all. Mainstream society is blinded by its hate of Hitler.

The 'basket of mixed fruit' is a perfectly find viewpoint to take. There are many things about him which were uniquiely positive, his ability to stand up to what he thought was wrong, the grandeur of his vision and scope of his dreams. However, the execution was poor, even without hindsight. Though he could not have known that a possible defeat would be a contributiong factor to destroying Europe, he had a pan-germanic ideology, not a pan-european one.

He overreached and tried to make something that should not be. Ego and pride got in the way, and in the end the results were deadly.

I have no opinion on Hitler, a mere individual, either positive or negative. Anyone who has an opinion on him, either positive or negative, is an individualist, as Hitler I believe was.

I have an opinion on Nazi Germany, however, on the 'superstructural' level, and I say it was far too individualistic a regime, with all the hero worship and the concentration of power in one individual representative of the bourgeoisie. I also disfavour Hitler's policy of bureaucratisation.

But was the regime centrally planned and directed? Were the means of production commodities? Was production directed by the state, or by profit?

These are the only questions which are really relevant.

But again more on the superstructural level, I favour Hitler's policy of indigenous nationalism, eugenics, racial self-preservation, public socialism, and indigenous nationalist militarist irredentism.

A very smart man, part of a line of smart and honorable people.

Fade, the Slavs had already compromised themselves, no offense intended.

Hitler's belief system can be applied in the abstract to any age, because he realized "progress" is an illusion.

A very smart man, part of a line of smart and honorable people.
Are you sure about this? Have you read Mein Kampf?

I think we should focus on Nazi Germany, not Adolf Hitler himself, who was a mere individual. What policies of Hitler do you favour and disfavour?

Love and admiration. The greatest German ever without doubt.


Tell me your opinion towards the german dictator.What do you think about the "Führer"?I think my opinion is clear,I'm a german nationalist and political a nationalsocialist.What about you?

Edit: Never mind; I shall ask in a new thread later, since my question has more to do with the regime, than Hitler himself.

Its still hard to divorce the man from the regime.
FB in another thread talks about "Hitler's Soldiers" .
Germany's Soldiers is how I would look at them not Hitler's .
The influence of the man on the regime was imense , he was the movement and was intrumental in shaping its policies and direction.
The NSDAP had influence and powre over almost every aspect of german life public and private , Hitlers image and influence was prominent and almost absolute.

The man himself , yes loathing is never far away , most people would see him as a figurehead of something which was evil based on the legacy lefet in its wake , a legacy which is now actively denied and defended.

The man himself . I don't see everyone as being without some redeming features .
Hitler was a man of will and there is no denying his power to influence and mpotivate people , and his faith in himself and what he had to say and what he saw as his mission in life.
How many of us could over see what he did , in fairness very few.
Certainly a man who was central to the history of all European Nations in the 20th Century.

What of the man himself , the individual.
He loved his mother , hated his father.
He was in love with himself and saw himself as much more than the average person , he was a dreamer with plans yet made no active effort to realise them .
He was ruthless and acted on impulse , he directed in vague often ill defined terms , his radical solutions to problems often brought havoc in their wake and he was quick to blame others for his failings and thoguht little of taking credit if there was any going.
His public image was important to him , he had this cultivated and tosearound him did likewise.
A man who quite probably had psychopathic traits , this may not be popular but it is worth consideration and is not a flame , repeat not a flame.
( So before anyone jumps down my throat with a barrage of insults and hurt pride , look at them ).
Hitler used people , he did so in a ruthless and self serving manner , he set them aside when they were of no further service.
He could not learn from his mistakes and blamed others whenever possible for them .
He had problems accepting issues which upset and conflicted with his view of how he wanted things to be , he delat poorly with reality and sought radical and unrealistic avenues of escape often against advice.
He was cold detached and remote , he had major problems in emotional relationships. ( His relationship with Eva Braun was very one sided.)
He was mildly deluded , grandure and infalibility most certainly.
He had no alcohol or drug dependence which was in his favour .

A great German , for the wrong reasons.
There were men who served in the armed forces who I would put ahead of him, men who were better leaders and who achieved more.

NB. This is not , repeat not a flame. Just to be completely clear on this.

"Mildly" deluded? Consider some of his "hold fast" orders near the end of the war, forcing German units to hold unholdable ground in the East, only to be surrounded and destroyed by the Russians. He honestly believed, even when the German military was in tatters, that he would eventually win, that the Russians would be thrown back at the gates of Berlin or whatever.

Just because somebody can give a good speech, doesn't mean they should be let anywhere near military command.

I was thinking more of his belief in himself and his like for pomp and circumstance, his birthday parades for example , over the top in every respect.
As far as a military commander , I could not agree more Sinclair , he cared little for the soldiers who time and time again he left in the lurch , those left cut of in the east whom he refused to rescue by sea, the men who were deliberatly left behind in pockets to defend "vital" communication centres , he played God with the lives of soldiers with wreckless abandon of that there is no doubt and more than ample proof.
He had no respect for nor had he any thought for the average soldier , he used them as he used others.