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Perun
09-14-2004, 07:29 PM
Communist article but still interesting.

http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc0408/dday.htm

Did Russia Win D-Day?

Sometimes from a vicious anti-Sovieteer comes the truth. This was written by Eric Margolis of Canada.

If the Soviet Union hadn’t chewed up millions of German soldiers and weapons, D-Day would have failed.

It’s high time that Russia was accorded recognition, especially during the last June celebrations in France on the occasion of the 60th Anniversary of the invasion of Normandy, France. Most North Americans believe that the US, Canadian and British invasion of Normandy was the decisive stroke of the war. Not so, in my view.

When the Allies invaded France, most of the war-battered German units they met were undermanned, short of armor, trucks, heavy artillery, almost immobile, and reduced to less that 40% combat effectiveness by previous hard fighting on the Eastern Front.

Most important, Germany’s once splendid air force was almost extinct. German forces at Normandy had almost no air cover and were pounded by the Allies day and night by thousands of Allied air strikes and bombers. Few of us recall that close to 20,000 innocent French civilians were killed by our bombing raids!

I am arguing that the German Wehrmacht was not defeated in France, but on the Eastern Front, during the 1941-44. The Red Army destroyed 507 German divisions, 48,000 German tanks and 77,000 German aircraft; 100 divisions of Nazi-allied Romanian, Hungary and Italy; and at least 450,000 Japanese soldiers, 32% of Japan’s total military losses.

Of Germany’s 10,000,000 casualties in World War II, over 75% came by fighting the Red Army. The German air force lost most of its planes and pilots on the Eastern Front. The gigantic battles on the Eastern Front ground down millions of lives.

Soviet Union lost over 20,000,000 people besides in the Pacific battles against Japan - they lost close to 1,000,000. D-Day was just a diversionary sideshow to tie down German troops while the Red Army pushed towards Berlin.

Some people may dispute this, but it is a historical fact that Germany’s military capability was destroyed way before the D-Day ever took place in June of 1944. It is interesting to speculate as to what would have happened to us in the West if Hitler did not invade USSR and if the Allies decided to land in Normandy to face the intact German machine! In my view, the Allies would have been beaten.

I recently saw a plaque in Italy lauding the liberation from the Germans by the "Italian Allied Forces". Excuse me, but I always remember that Italy was on the German side!

This makes you wonder as to who was fighting against the Allies? Everyone who fought against Russia, Britain, US and France now seems to have been anti-Nazi, in the Resistance, or vacationing in South America at the time of the Second World War.

Of course the German Chancellor was at this 60th Anniversary of the invasion of France, all smiles. Maybe we’ll even see a smiling Japanese delegation at Pearl Harbor next year?

Comment:

An excellent article from an anti-Sovieteer. He could have brought himself to write and admit that it was Britain, US and French imperialism that were pushing Hitler to invade the USSR in the first place. Also, he could have admitted that after the Western Imperialists saw that the Red Army was on the verge of liberating the whole of Europe right up to the Atlantic Ocean, they were forced finally to open up the Second Front!

Poor Eric Margolis could not bring himself to admit that the German SS and its Gestapo Secret Service were welcomed with open arms by the USA and sent to holiday in South America (war criminals and all) and then the whole Nazi SS Secret Service’s top echelons were hired and became part of the CIA!

Sinclair
09-14-2004, 09:52 PM
There's no doubt about it. If the Russians hadn't destroyed the majority of the German units lost in the war, the Western Allies never would have been able to get ashore.

The war would have taken quite a bit longer without WA land forces in Western Europe, but the Russians probably would have prevailed in the end. This is of course assuming WA air attacks on Germany, and WA aid to Russia (Lend-Lease was probably one of the greatest WA contributions to the war effort).

Speaking of the Japanese: I volunteered at the 60th D-Day Anniversary celebrations here in Toronto, and I read that the ****ing Japanese Consul or whatever was showing up. Pissed me off it did. The Japanese treated civilians and captured soldiers alike horribly, and often murdered them just for the fun of it. The Canadian soldiers surrendered at Hong Kong were hardly an exception. One of my great-uncles or great-great-uncles, who lived in the Dutch colonies, died in a Japanese camp.

The Japanese government has never really apologized for Japanese war crimes, they even have a shrine to executed class-A war criminals. And yet we play all buddy-buddy with what is probably one of the most racist nations on Earth, while the Germans spend the last 59 years bowing and scraping for what they did, and "German" is still synonymous with "bad". It's a bloody disgrace.