This lovable competition starts again. Here are all 32 teams, ranked by UEFA coefficient, and shown in the jars in which they'll be put when they do the draw.



jar 1:

Porto (Portugal)
Real Madrid (Spain)
Valencia (Spain)
Barcelona (Spain)
Manchester Utd (England)
Bayern München (Germany)
Deportivo (Spain)
Arsenal (England)
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AC Milan (Italy)
Liverpool (England)
Juventus (Italy)
Internazionale (Italy)
AS Roma (Italy)
Lyon (France)
Chelsea (England)
Panathinaikos (Greece)
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PSV (Holland)
Bayer Leverkusen (Germany)
Celtic (Scotland)
Sparta Prague (Czech Republic)
Monaco (France)
Anderlecht (Belgium)
Ajax (Holland)
PSG (France)
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Rosenborg (Norway)
Dynamo Kiev (Ukraine)
Olympiakos (Greece)
Werder Bremen (Germany)
Sjachtjor Donjetsk (Ukraine)
Fenerbahçe (Turkey)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv (Israel)
CSKA Moscow (Russia)
My money is on Milan, but I hope it will be Liverpool.

EYTYXEITE!
Dear CONSTANTINUS stop to publish your nice polls unless to put something about Horse-riding! I don't know a hell concerning Football! I'm absolutely ignorant!!
Oh, my Zeus!
Kindest Regards!

LOL, it's ok. Feel free to open your own poll about horseriding of course. It's a sport too, and there are probably some people among the members who ride horses themselves. I'd open one, but I don't know anything of it. Next time there's an important contest in horseracing (I suppose that part of the Olympics is already over), open one, please.

best regards

Here are the 8 groups:

Poule Ahttp://vrtnieuws.streampower.be/html/sportnet/images/spacer.gif

Deportivo
Liverpool
Monaco
Olympiakos
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Real Madrid
As Roma
Bayer Leverkusen
Dinamo Kiev
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Bayern München
Juventus
Ajax
Maccabi Tel-Aviv
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Manchester United
Lyon
Sparta Prague
Fenerbahçe
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Arsenal
Panathinaikos
PSV
Rosenborg
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Barcelona
AC Milan
Celtic
Sjachtjor Donjetsk
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Valencia
Internazionale
Anderlecht
Werder Bremen
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Porto
Chelsea
Paris SG
CSKA Moskow

Arsenal to win .As for the groups:
A : Olympiakos out . Can't tell who'll get the axe between the 3 others .
B : Kiev out, with either AS Roma or Leverkusen, prolly the later ..
C : Tel-Aviv out, touch choice between the other 3, I'd go Ajax/Juve .
D : the easy one , I guess ... ManU and the OL
E : Arsenal PSV or maybe Arsenal Rosenborg
F : Barca, AC
G : Werder, Inter
H : Porto, Chelsea

Why Arsenal? They're a good team, but they never even reached the semifinals of the tournament. They always seem to lack that last touch to be really great.

Why Arsenal? They're a good team, but they never even reached the semifinals of the tournament. They always seem to lack that last touch to be really great.

That's true .
But they're on a roll, and their side appears even stronger than it was last year (with, for exemple, players like Reyes showing they are powerhouses to be ), and maybe this year Arsene will find the way to manage his threefold ( premiership, FAcup, CL) challenge.

Are you English? Are you following the Premier League? I'd love to follow it, but it's hard unless you go watching BBC all the time. That new guy with Liverpool, Cissé, I hope he'll be good, better than Owen who should have never left. (I support Liverpool in England)

Are you English? Are you following the Premier League?

I'm French, but am following the premiership .
I more or less "follow" all the major 5 european leagues, but premiership is my fav .

That new guy with Liverpool, Cissé, I hope he'll be good, better than Owen who should have never left. (I support Liverpool in England)


Cisse is quite good .
He's been top goal -scorer in the french ligue 1 in 01/02 and 03/04 ; overall, he has netted 70 goals in 128 games for Auxerre.
He's fast, rather powerful, and has a good shot, especially at long range, with both feet , and can head failry well too .
However, I think he's a pure striker, you need a guy to fuel him with balls, as he is not very likely to go and fetch them himself, and even less likely to fall back and defend .

Between him and Barros, Liverpool should be ok .

Shaktar Donetsk are a good bet to play the dark horse in this tourney.

Shaktar Donetsk are a good bet to play the dark horse in this tourney.
Oh yes, they'll go far. I saw them trash my team. Bruges isn't a worldteam, but they're definately not some pushover. They eliminated Dortmund last year, and won in Milan, who was then defending the title. We didn't even play bad, but were bested in almost any way. Donetsk has fast players, superb technique, and the combinations are lightning fast. Quarter finals, is my estimate.

Valencia won the European supercup today. beat Porto 1-2, Valencia could be a contender for the Champion's League too.

Oh yes, they'll go far. I saw them trash my team. Bruges isn't a worldteam, but they're definately not some pushover.

You have it easy in the first round of the UEFA cup : Chateauroux is a second division team who qualified as finalists of the french cup because winner PStG was qualified for the CL by virtue of being 2nd of the championship . The French Millwall, so to speak ...

Valencia won the European supercup today. beat Porto 1-2, Valencia could be a contender for the Champion's League too.

I'm not certain Porto looks as good as it did like season, they have lost a few key players .
Anyone know the composition of their squad ?

I just checked it out, their website hasn't been updated yet it seems. Porto won't be as good, but I still expect them to reach the quarterfinals. In any case, I doubt it'll matter much since the site still has the playerslist of last season, but here it is:
http://www.fcporto.pt/English/infofutplayers0304_eng.html

In any case, I doubt it'll matter much since the site still has the playerslist of last season, but here it is:
http://www.fcporto.pt/English/infofutplayers0304_eng.html

:/
Yeah, waay outdated .
Alenitchev's playing for Spartak Moscow
Ricardo Carvalho and Paulo Ferreira have followed Mourinho @ Chelsky
Deco is playing for the Barca ( and was rather uninspired yesterday)

LOL, Conceicao left too, he's with Standard Liege now. That idiot picked the suckiest team in western Europe, and he got sent off after 15 minutes in his first game. Way to go, hehe. He's ruining his career with Liege.

LOL, Conceicao left too, he's with Standard Liege now. That idiot picked the suckiest team in western Europe, and he got sent off after 15 minutes in his first game. Way to go, hehe. He's ruining his career with Liege.

Sergio Conceicao ?
Cause at first I thought you were talking about Falvio Concecaio, who signed from the Real to galatasaray ...
A paralell there : both are 30 yo players, going to inferior teams, But I think a Gala move is better than going to the Standard :p

Ala Real Madrid! Too bad I can't keep up with European football here in USA. :(

Ala Real Madrid! Too bad I can't keep up with European football here in USA. :(
Fear no more Mike, I follow it as good as I can, and I'll make sure to post anything I find about it. ;)

Sergio Conceicao ?
Cause at first I thought you were talking about Falvio Concecaio, who signed from the Real to galatasaray ...
A paralell there : both are 30 yo players, going to inferior teams, But I think a Gala move is better than going to the Standard :p
Absolutely. I have no idea what he's looking for with Standard Liege. If you come to belgium from a big competition, the only teams here which have a chance of playing CL are Anderlecht and Bruges. He's wasting his time with Liege (to be honest, I wouldn't want him with Bruges, he's a hasbeen who'll demand a pay three times more than what he's worth).

That awful Anderlecht lost :D . Bremen beat Valencia, second time already this edition that a German team beats a Spanish one. I never liked the Spanish teams (too arrogant) so this CL is starting quite well for me. Too bad my team got eliminated by some Ukrainian mobsters :( .

The international team from Highbury london.
Anyone as long as it is not Man. Utd. Listening to them is "enough to do your head in". :mad:

Well, I'm AS ROMA supporter, but I know that they cannot win UCL this season :(

Well, I'm AS ROMA supporter, but I know that they cannot win UCL this season :(But they never won it, not even in their own stadium vs the mighty and glorious Liverpool. Go scouse!!! :D

Whatever team is the most homogeneously European should be the champions. That includes Meds too. All Germans shalll be considered German because Nords are not the only Germans!!! GERMANS!!! DEUTSCHE RASSEN. Meaning Regions. As in Bavarians,etc.

My prediction for the qualifiers from the group stage:

Group A: Liverpool, AS Monaco

Group B: Dinamo Kiev, Real Madrid

Group C: Juventus, Bayern München

Group D: Olympique Lyon, Manchester United

Group E: PSV Eindhoven, Arsenal

Group F: Barcelona, AC Milan

Group G: Werder Bremen, Inter Milan

Group H: Chelsea, CSKA Moscow

And a further prediction that the semi-finalists will be from the following six teams:

Juventus

Manchester United

Barcelona

AC Milan

Werder Bremen

Chelsea

Well ...
4 groups finished tonight :
Group E
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 Arsenal 6 2 4 0 +5 10
2 PSV 6 3 1 2 -1 10
3 Panathinaikos 6 2 3 1 +3 9
4 Rosenborg BK 6 0 2 4 -7 2

Group F
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 AC Milan 6 4 1 1 +7 13
2 FC Barcelona 6 3 1 2 +3 10
3 Shakhtar Donetsk 6 2 0 4 -4 6
4 Celtic 6 1 2 3 -6 5

Group G
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 Internazionale 6 4 2 0 +11 14
2 Werder Bremen 6 4 1 1 +6 13
3 Valencia CF 6 2 1 3 -4 7
4 Anderlecht 6 0 0 6 -13 0

Group H
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 Chelsea 6 4 1 1 +7 13
2 FC Porto 6 2 2 2 -2 8
3 CSKA Moskva 6 2 1 3 0 7
4 Paris Saint-Germain 6 1 2 3 -5 5


the following 2 are also decided as far as solely the CL is concerned :
Group C
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 Juventus 5 5 0 0 +5 15
2 Bayern München 5 3 0 2 +7 9
3 Ajax 5 1 0 4 -4 3
4 Maccabi Tel Aviv 5 1 0 4 -8 3


Group D
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 Manchester United 5 3 2 0 +8 11
2 Olympique Lyon 5 3 1 1 +4 10
3 Fenerbahçe 5 2 0 3 -6 6
4 Sparta Praha 5 0 1 4 -6 1

tomorrows match to be followed :
Deportivo La Coruña - AS Monaco
Liverpool - Olympiacos
Bayer Leverkusen - Dynamo Kyiv
AS Roma - Real Madrid

hehehe, stupid anderlecht, the bitch of their group

hmm...
Liverpool - Olympiacos : 3-1
Deportivo La Coruña 0 AS Monaco 5
last year they Trashed la coruna 8 - 5 ... poor guys
AS Roma 0 Real Madrid 3
Bayer Leverkusen 3 Dynamo Kyiv 0

so that makes :
Group A
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 AS Monaco 6 4 0 2 +6 12
2 Liverpool 6 3 1 2 +3 10
3 Olympiacos 6 3 1 2 0 10
4 Deportivo La Coruña 6 0 2 4 -9 2


Group B
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 Bayer Leverkusen 6 3 2 1 +6 11
2 Real Madrid 6 3 2 1 +3 11
3 Dynamo Kyiv 6 3 1 2 +3 10
4 AS Roma 6 0 1 5 -12 1

lol @ the Roma, pathetic ...

Group C
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 Juventus 6 5 1 0 +5 16
2 Bayern München 6 3 1 2 +7 10
3 Ajax 6 1 1 4 -4 4
4 Maccabi Tel Aviv 6 1 1 4 -8 4

Group D
Pl W D L GD Pts.
1 Olympique Lyon 6 4 1 1 +9 13
2 Manchester United 6 3 2 1 +5 11
3 Fenerbahçe 6 3 0 3 -3 9
4 Sparta Praha 6 0 1 5 -11 1

In non-Champions League news, Liverpool lost to Everton and I'm coincidentally feeling ill. :(

Aargh, Liverpool should be topping the League.

Napoleon Bonaparte: Aargh, Liverpool should be topping the League.

Nap, not a chance in hell :222

Everton is currently in second place. It would be disastrous if they won a Champions League spot. The thought continues to make me ill. :mad:

themistocles: Everton is currently in second place. It would be disastrous if they won a Champions League spot. The thought continues to make me ill. :mad:

You should find consolation in the fact their momentum is unlikely to last for much longer.