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FadeTheButcher
07-31-2004, 10:15 PM
I notice he is hitting up the Stormfronters for money. What do you guys think about this fellow?
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1184534#post1184534
bardamu
07-31-2004, 10:19 PM
He walks the walk. He is an argumentative fellow. More power to him. Usually he brags about not soliciting funds outside his own county.
Stribog
08-01-2004, 02:06 AM
We have bigger things to worry about than Confederate ex post facto apologetics and whether the Mississippi state flag is changed. Those pics of his constituents that Fade posted at Skadi don't exactly give me faith in the man.
bardamu
08-01-2004, 02:16 AM
We have bigger things to worry about than Confederate ex post facto apologetics and whether the Mississippi state flag is changed. Those pics of his constituents that Fade posted at Skadi don't exactly give me faith in the man.
Pretty easy to criticize from behind a keyboard.
Idi Amin
08-01-2004, 04:53 AM
It doesn't matter if you're trash or ugly, you still get the chance to vote if you're 18+ years old.
I listened to one of his speeches and I thought it was from th segregationist days. Then I read about it and it was by Giles within the last couple years. The man names the Jew and supports White power; good enough for me.
It doesn't matter if you're trash or ugly, you still get the chance to vote if you're 18+ years old.
I listened to one of his speeches and I thought it was from th segregationist days. Then I read about it and it was by Giles within the last couple years. The man names the Jew and supports White power; good enough for me.
I agree. Of course, I think that America is a lost cause...but at least there are still a few men who know the truth of the situation and are willing to speak out.
FadeTheButcher
08-01-2004, 01:58 PM
I think its a waste of money. The assumption here is that most people are fundamentally rational, free-thinking individuals. That is not the case. Only a very small elite is capable of original thought. If one wants to reach the herd, then one must do so through its shepherds. The herd will almost always follow whoever it sees possessing 'legitimacy'. If we are ever to get anywhere, then we must co-opt at least some part of the established elite. People at the top must be converted by cadres of 'awakened' individuals. They must be made to personally fear what is coming.
Stribog
08-01-2004, 02:20 PM
I think its a waste of money. The assumption here is that most people are fundamentally rational, free-thinking individuals. That is not the case. Only a very small elite is capable of original thought. If one wants to reach the herd, then one must do so through its shepherds. The herd will almost always follow whoever it sees possessing 'legitimacy'. If we are ever to get anywhere, then we must co-opt at least some part of the established elite. People at the top must be converted by cadres of 'awakened' individuals. They must be made to personally fear what is coming.
We will not get anywhere without massive media presence. What we should concentrate on is setting up some kind of investment group to amass a large fortune and then purchasing sizeable shares of the television, print and telecommunications markets. Any political campaign undertaken prior to this is futile. We would have to set such a fund up so that no one person could control the funds in order to safeguard against embezzling. The odds of a white media empire are long, sure, but not as long as those of some nutty "white militia coup."
I am skeptical about there being enough cooperative spirit among 'enlightened' whites to accomplish such a fund. If it happens it will probably be through the efforts of one exceptional megamillionaire, a la Henry Ford and the Dearborn Independent.
FadeTheButcher
08-01-2004, 02:23 PM
The chances of us building up such a media empire from nothing is about 0%. Some portion of the gentile elite has to be co-opted. That means racialism or racism has to be made attractive to some portion of the gentile elite who must be made to fear the changes that are going on for their own sake. We should focus our efforts on converting people at the top, not the bottom. We need a Constantine.
Stribog
08-01-2004, 02:59 PM
The chances of us building up such a media empire from nothing is about 0%. Some portion of the gentile elite has to be co-opted. That means racialism or racism has to be made attractive to some portion of the gentile elite who must be made to fear the changes that are going on for their own sake. We should focus our efforts on converting people at the top, not the bottom. We need a Constantine.
OK, Fade and Nordhammer are in the South. You guys go to work on Ted Turner. Johnson is in Washington and can work on Bill Gates. I'll look for potential 'converts' in Chicago. :D
bayerisches maedchen
08-01-2004, 05:53 PM
I saw that thread on Skadi with Jim Giles' supporters too. Pure white trash if you'd ask me... :|
Rumblestrip
08-02-2004, 12:23 AM
He says a lot of good things, sure, but he's rubbing a lot of the people the wrong way when he starts insulting anyone who disagrees with him or challenges any of his statements. That's not a godo way to go about getting support.
PaulDavidHewson
08-02-2004, 01:08 AM
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This guy will be having a good meal with some nice champagne while laughing over all the retards who actually donated money to him.
Don't think he has a real chance of winning with that agenda...
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Is he looking to start a economic war with the rest of the world or something?
bardamu
08-02-2004, 01:14 AM
This guy will be having a good meal with some nice champagne while laughing over all the retards who actually donated money to him.
Don't think he has a real chance of winning with that agenda...
Is he looking to start a economic war with the rest of the world or something?
Of course he has no chance of winning. Neither does Nader but I'm still voting for him. Are you afraid of economic wars with the rest of the world? I couldn't care less about something like that.
PaulDavidHewson
08-02-2004, 01:18 AM
Are you afraid of economic wars with the rest of the world. I couldn't care less about something like that.
No, I'm not American :)
I think it's important though that the US and Europe should work together. I don't know what the implications would be for the stock market if he had his way.
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