View Full Version : Are you voting for president?
robinder
07-20-2004, 03:12 AM
Are any Americans here going to bother voting? If so, who will you pick. I am seriously considering Ralph Nader, though I will wait and see who gets their name on the ballot.
CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
07-20-2004, 03:17 AM
Why exactly Nader?
Zoroaster
07-20-2004, 03:30 AM
Whether I vote or not depends upon what third-party is on the ballot here, in Oklahoma.
I haven't voted Republicrat since 1988. There is no chance of taking America back unless and until the majority of voters opt for third-party candidates.
SteamshipTime
07-20-2004, 03:41 AM
Voting lends legitimacy to an illegitimate institution.
FadeTheButcher
07-20-2004, 04:20 AM
ST is right.
Angler
07-20-2004, 01:39 PM
If I bother to vote this year, it will be for Nader. Mr. Nader actually named the Jew in a speech earlier this year, and that's enough for me at this point. More specifically, he came right out and said that Washington politicians are nothing but puppets on Israeli strings:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1088566594744
Any candidate who has the balls to speak the truth in such a bold manner is at least worthy of a protest vote, regardless of how misguided he may be on other issues.
In general, though, I agree that voting is a pointless and possibly even counterproductive exercise. Right now the most important things for true-blue Americans to be doing are (1) buying more guns, ammo, and other survival equipment, and (2) spreading the word that Jewish supremacists have usurped control over much of the US government.
otto_von_bismarck
07-20-2004, 04:29 PM
Im with Fade and SST.
CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
07-20-2004, 04:37 PM
That's insane. Pick a third party candidate then, or even a random candidate of anyone but the two major parties. It's easy to not vote at all and then comment. My country has an obliged vote. That's pretty irrelevant for me, I would march through a blizzard in order to vote if need be. I like *****ing at the gouvernment so bad, I would consider myself a hypocrit if I didn't vote.
FadeTheButcher
07-20-2004, 04:39 PM
Get that job, Stan?
CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
07-20-2004, 04:47 PM
I'll know more next monday. Thanks for asking.
otto_von_bismarck
07-20-2004, 05:12 PM
Despite the fact that no 3rd party canidate can win, I don't like any of them either.
SteamshipTime
07-20-2004, 05:22 PM
That's insane. Pick a third party candidate then, or even a random candidate of anyone but the two major parties. It's easy to not vote at all and then comment. My country has an obliged vote. That's pretty irrelevant for me, I would march through a blizzard in order to vote if need be. I like *****ing at the gouvernment so bad, I would consider myself a hypocrit if I didn't vote.
As weikel points out, the major third party candidates are both objectionable: ex-Green Ralph Nader (socialist) and Libertarian (good ol' whatsisname) Badnarik, who should throw a party if he gets 100,000 votes. The election laws in our States are basically a conspiracy between the Democrats and the Republicans to share power.
otto_von_bismarck
07-20-2004, 05:27 PM
I used to think I liked the libertarians( when I thought they were like freerepublic libertarians) then I found out they won't fight to save their life and are for open borders. Then there are those hardcore religious fundi hoopleheads in the constitution party. No thanks.
Johnson
07-20-2004, 07:35 PM
I am voting for Peroutka
http://www.peroutka2004.com/
Johnson
07-20-2004, 07:42 PM
http://www.peroutka2004.com/images/events/tac_pjb-peroutka.jpg http://www.peroutka2004.com/images/events/tac_tancredo-peroutka.jpg
What Others Say: Immigration Reform PAC Endorses Michael A. Peroutka for President
http://www.peroutka2004.com/schedule/index.php?action=eventview&event_id=185
Exporting Jobs/Importing
Workers Conference
http://www.peroutka2004.com/schedule/index.php?action=eventview&event_id=97
robinder
07-20-2004, 08:29 PM
SST, are the Liberitarians running someone other than Browne this year?
robinder
07-20-2004, 08:32 PM
Find out what we mean when we say we are committed to a civil government in these United States that acknowledges God, defends the family, and restores the American Republic to its founding principles.
Not my cup of tea, but not bad, really. The natural law party is the looniest of the lot, they have some sort of program based on the Maharishi's transcendental meditation.
manny
07-20-2004, 09:05 PM
I'm with SST, Fade, and Otto. Why participate in the ridiculous farce?
SteamshipTime
07-20-2004, 09:37 PM
SST, are the Liberitarians running someone other than Browne this year?
Yes. Some guy named Baradnik. Everyone in the LP has heard of him; nobody else has.
JMHO, but Harry Browne was the LP's last chance to make a big splash, and the results were absolutely awful. I voted for Browne along with about 300,000 other people nationwide--less than both Buchanan and Nader. A complete waste.
I have read (this is all secondhand) that Browne's nomination split the party into two camps. The hippies and old-timers wanted sci-fi writer Neil Smith, and his Arizona base even went so far as to kick Browne off the Arizona ballot and have Neil put on as the LP of Arizona candidate. The more savvy Libertarians backed Browne--socially conservative, articulate, well-groomed, self-made millionaire. Browne was despised by the former crowd as a johnny-come-lately: someone who hadn't been in the trenches running for County Dogcatcher and writing angry letters to the editor.
In the end though, I don't know that the rift did much harm given the absolutely pathetic showing.
Browne appears to have had enough. His writings tend to be more anarcho-capitalist these days.
manny
07-20-2004, 09:39 PM
Browne appears to have had enough.
Who can blame him?
otto_von_bismarck
07-20-2004, 11:17 PM
With Credit to Jack Barbara
http://i3mm.com/art/LibertarianMan.jpg
"Next time your found, with your chin on the ground,
There a lot to be learned, so look around.
Just what makes that little old ant
Think he'll move that rubber tree plant?
Anyone knows an ant can't move a rubber tree plant,
But he's got high hopes, he's got high hopes,
He's got high apple pie, in the sky hopes.
So any time your gettin' low, 'stead of lettin' go,
Just remember that ant -
Oops there goes another rubber tree plant."
I'm voting for Bush because I don't like Muslims.
Wish Ross Perot or Pat Buchanan were running though.
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